Penetration and cast level. Also, blood vengeance.

[mivayan]

UncleYee said:
For ex, are these equally hard to resist?

Yes.

edit: oops. Llamabeast is right. erm. I seem to have failed very basic math here. It's +1, +1, +2 penetration. (/edit)

Second, does either or both spell penetration bonus and higher level make for a more effective (each reflection less likely to be resisted) blood vengeance?

Penetration does't affect blood vengeance.

[UncleYee]

Thanks for your wisdom. I see I was reading the formula incorrectly. So eye of the void really is worth the hassle...

[Jazzepi]

I would just like to say something funny. I gave one eye of perception (whatever the +8 to perception eye is) and then my commander lost an eye as an affliction. So alright, I give him another eye of perception, and unfortunately that made him BLIND, and he couldn't fire the ethereal crossbow I had given him to shoot.

Geeze, I guess you live and learn. Never replace both eye sockets with magical rubies. Only one. I ended up redoing a extra 15 minutes of my turn because of that.

Jazzepi

[MaxWilson]

Shouldn't he have a precision of 5? Two Eyes of Aiming don't stack bonuses, so you'll have a base 0 precision with +5 for magic.

So he can still use the crossbow...

-Max

[Jazzepi]

You get the "blindness" affliction, which I believes prevents you from even attacking with a ranged item.

It was awful.

Jazzepi

[Baalz]

FWIW, if you have more than 2 natural eyes you can use multiple magic eyes without going blind. The first magic eye gives you the affliction "lost a couple of eyes" which suggests you'll lose the rest of them by using another eye, but in fact the affliction doesn't change with a second eye (only had to two slots, so not sure if you can replace all your eyes)

[Meglobob]

Baalz said:
FWIW, if you have more than 2 natural eyes you can use multiple magic eyes without going blind. The first magic eye gives you the affliction "lost a couple of eyes" which suggests you'll lose the rest of them by using another eye, but in fact the affliction doesn't change with a second eye (only had to two slots, so not sure if you can replace all your eyes)

Also if you give 2 eyes of the void to a fountain for example you get 2 affictions with the description, 'lost some unimportant body part, no effect', so fountains and suchlike can never be blind. But AFAIK they get +4 penetration bonus still.

[Graeme Dice]

Jazzepi said:
You get the "blindness" affliction, which I believes prevents you from even attacking with a ranged item.

They can still fire, they just have a base precision of 0.