Uk's MBT-LAW

[loktarr]

It's disponible in-game in 2007, as planned by Uk's ministry of defense, is it true?
I'm amazed by this missile because it's a TA-ATGM and it has a better penetration than a maverick! Has anybody confirmation than this missile is already in service and so efficient?
I just discovered it when playing against a player with germany in 2007; his poor Leo II were disabled in a few turns, without any possibility to strike back!

[loktarr]

It is unit 235, even if I didn't ask for any change...

[DRG]

It's a top attack missle. They do attack the weakest bits on a tank

Don

[loktarr]

DRG said:

It's a top attack missile. They do attack the weakest bits on a tank

Don

That's just why I miss the interess of being able to penetrate 150cm of anti-HEAT armour when best roof are around 20cm, and that no DC-ATGM are able to penetrate a so great thickness... Why not give them such a warhead (in game, best DC have a 100 to 120 penetration, against face hull/turret up to 170 in the worst case)
But if I understand you correctly, this value is just in-game to assure a more frequent success of this weapon, maybe because of a better system or something else?
In fact what shocks me is that it seems pretty unlogical to have such a warhead, when only a 5 times smaller is needed...
Cheers
Loktarr

[DRG]

So it's not the fact that it can kill just about anything it's fired at it's the number we choose to represent that fact that's bothering you. Tell you what...... you find me hard info on the actual armour penetration of a Bofors MBT-LAW and I'll read it and if we are wrong. I'll fix it

OK?

Don

[loktarr]

DRG said:
So it's not the fact that it can kill just about anything it's fired at it's the number we choose to represent that fact that's bothering you.
Don

It doesn't bother me and I never asked for modifications of game values; my question was if the value was the consequence of a revolutionar penetrator or "the fact that it can kill just about anything it's fired at": your present answer is the only thing I asked for.
Now, if you want to know if I think that this value is too high, my is NO, because I never saw any MBT-LAW in action, probably never will and my guess is that some of the OOB maker did.
Thank you for your answer and sorry , but I was just trying to understand something, not to upset you.
Loktarr

[SGTGunn]

The MBT LAW apparently uses the same warhead (or one based on) as the Bofors Bill 2.

http://www.global-defence.com/2006/U...icle.php?id=30

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mbt_law/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBT_LAW

The RBS-56B Bill 2 weapon number 152 obat66 - Sweden has a heat penetration of 100, so my guess is that the MBT LAW should have a similar value.

It's an easy fix for anyone interested - just pop into MOBHACK and make the change =)

Adrian

[DRG]

I'll look into this in the fall

Don

[Suhiir]

OK, now I'm curious.
The Javelin (OOB 12 US Army and OOB 13 USMC, weapon 143) is also a top attack missile and has a HEAT Pen of 45.
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Javelin actually have a higher warhead weight/penetration then the MBT LAW ?

[DRG]

Well you guys have a few months to dig up the answer. I'll be interested to see what you find out

Don