Nation Idea: LA Oceania

Sombre · #1 April 22nd, 2007, 11:25 AM

I don't really mind them being water-centric; I think that EA Oceania still plays an interesting game, even on the No Indy maps where it can't even get indy troops on land. MA Oceania is slightly less interesting to me, but still good, considering it's a watery Pangaea basically.

It might be good to give LA Oceania a darker edge (a theme of the late era). After all they're forced to live next-door to Ryleh and could well have been driven a bit nuts by it.

Dedas · #2 April 22nd, 2007, 11:49 AM

Or they could've been forced to adopt an extremely strict mind discipline to deal with the influence of their dangerous neighbor. Maybe they have a special sacred unit called "Will Warrior" or a priestly sect devoted to preserve the minds of the population?

Shovah32 · #3 April 22nd, 2007, 11:52 AM

Their priests could have the inquisitor bonus to help keep out the corrupting dominion of rlyeh. Although going down this road could lead to an underwater marignon, making them water-centric would help them take out rlyeh.

Sombre · #4 April 22nd, 2007, 12:08 PM

Interesting. I would certainly consider giving them high MR units designed specifically to deal with Ryleh. After all pureblood Oceanian tritons naturally have good mr.

Perhaps something like,...

Oceanian Depth Rangers. Stealth 0, high mr, patrolbonus. Their task is to tirelessly roam Oceanian waters hunting down spawn, hybrids etc. They are semi elite with some extra resistances gained by fighting all manner of horrors. They have been known to launch raids deep into Ryleh in order to strike down foul temples and powerful Illithids.

I'm thinking that LA Oceania would be a nation on constant alert, always ready to strike, to retreat, to counterattack. An assassin form of the Rangers might be nice too, for killing illithids.

What about amphibious troops? I think mermen are a constant in Oceanian history, so I don't mind having them. As for the halfmen of MA Oceania,.. eh,.. then there's Ichtyids - they might be interesting as part of a new oceania.

Shovah32 · #5 April 22nd, 2007, 12:17 PM

How about ichtyids that have been partially corrupted by the horrors of the void? They would certainly make interesting units.

Sombre · #6 April 22nd, 2007, 12:30 PM

Void touched ichtyids who have been forced from their coastal homes by the more advanced land nations are a possibility. Oceania could be a sort of refugee nation sandwiched between the land and ryleh. I mean since the atlantians have moved north and the shamblers are all but wiped out,... I'm thinking the lighter skinned coastal atlantians could be on board with Oceania too. That way you have a triton based sea nation that's all about smacking ryleh around, but with 'marines' made up of ichtyids, atlantians and mermen specifically armed to storm the beaches. Up on the surface world the big new thing is high tech heavy armour, so it might make sense for them to have armour negating or piercing weapons coupled with entangling/netting stuff.

normalphil · #7 April 22nd, 2007, 01:25 PM

Ichtyids in general sounds interesting, and this is more than just a person who's joys in life include watching massive phalanxes of ichtyids scour the coasts and shallows talking.

As identified, Oceana has a definate character-arc as a faction. I think the tritons were done in EA. The halfmen rallied things on the periphery, and things went well for a while, but then... anything that couldn't act on the general cry of "Get out of the water!" at the end of the Middle Era got its culture obliterated by Ryleh.

The Ichtyids may be the only ocean-involved "civilization" with any cultural continuity /left/ by LA, (and it wasn't much to begin with). I think some surviving bishop-fish plastered over fringe cities of quasi-civilized ichtyids and some merman (reef dweller?) detrius is how it would end up. For a template to plaster it over I suggest medieval Somolia or Yeman, after the Mongols got finished with the Caliphate.