Conceptual Balance (Discussion)

Xietor · #1 April 27th, 2007, 12:34 AM

Ram,

I specifically said MA Pangaea who does not get black dryads. As for the White ones, they get a whooping 3 research for 110 gold! Though technically 3 for 110 is cheaper than 8 for 350,You are not going to win many research races getting 3 research a turn. Man's daughter of Avalon gets 4 for 80.

I could live with 4 research for 110 gold. But I would rather just pay the 350 gold and get 9 research with the pan, even though you can get 9 for 330 with 3 dryads as it presently stands.

The point is, pangaea's research could use a slight boost.
It is not like Pangaea is overpowered in MA in the least.

Graeme Dice · #2 April 27th, 2007, 01:50 AM

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I specifically said MA Pangaea who does not get black dryads. As for the White ones, they get a whooping 3 research for 110 gold! Though technically 3 for 110 is cheaper than 8 for 350,You are not going to win many research races getting 3 research a turn.

I'm doing quite well in a MP game where all my research was performed by Mictlan priests in a drain 2 dominion, who give me only 2 research points per turn. You don't just add three research per turn, you add 9 research per turn out of three castles for the same upfront cost, and less than half the long term costs. The Dryad costs you 3.67 gold per turn, the Pan costs you 23.33 gold per turn. If it's just for research purposes, then you can afford to have 6.4 Dryads for every Pan over the long term. The Dryad is always cheaper on a gold cost/RP basis.

Xietor · #3 April 27th, 2007, 10:05 AM

That is true, but early in the game, you have 1 castle. And initially, i like to produce Pans, until I get one with death bonus. I have several other reasons why i like having the pans
that are not related to research.

But the thrust of the thread, and my point, is not to debate the relative merits of researching with a dryad v Pan, they both could use some help in the research area. Yes, the dryad is slightly better than Pan at research, but they both are below average.

Conceding your point, then bumping the Pan to 9 research will not affect game balance at all.

Sombre · #4 April 27th, 2007, 10:19 AM

If it won't affect game balance what's the point of doing it?

Xietor · #5 April 27th, 2007, 11:33 AM

I was being sarcastic.

Sombre · #6 April 27th, 2007, 05:17 PM

You were? "bumping Pan to 9 research will not affect game balance at all" seems a very strange thing to say sarcastically. Ok though, if you say so.

Is there an ETA on the next version of CB?

quantum_mechani · #7 April 27th, 2007, 05:49 PM

Probably some time not long after the new IW patch.