Mod Single Age

Velusion · #1 April 28th, 2007, 02:59 PM

I'm considering hosting a game with this mod.

Question - did you ever test the below process and verify that people can select their nation and play?

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Gandalf Parker said:
So far, this is the workaround Im considering for actually trying to run a full MP game with this mod. Ive found that my server will happily run the game once it is created. But the initial signup might be a problem. By the way, if anyone else wants to beat me to the punch and offer this as an MP game that is fine with me.

Im thinking of having 3 signup "games".
Era 1 (early) on port 7111
Era 2 (mid) on port 7222
Era 3 (late) on port 7333
all running with no start-button.

That way people can upload their gods. When Im ready to start then I will take down those three "games" and copy all of the god files into one game directory for MegaGame on port 7321. I will run first hosting as if it was a pbem game. Then turn the game on for normal play after that.

Gandalf Parker · #2 April 28th, 2007, 03:47 PM

Yes I got it to work but I couldnt get it to work quite the way I wanted to. (fully automatable for my lazy self)

This is the best Ive gotten so far. After the above arrangement with 3 signup "games", I had to rename all of the received files from the transmitted name such as early_ulm.2h to the pre-transmitted names such as early_ulm_1.2h (the way that dom keeps track of multiple god choices for a nation is to add 0 thru whatever on the name but its stripped when you send it).

Then send all of the sent god files to my desktop WinXP machine and put them all into an empty savedgames/newlords directory (I made a complete copy of the game into a different directory for this so I dont overwrite my own god-builds).

Then I started a game as if it was going to be a hotseat game for myself. I turned on the SingleAge mod, started an early era game, and "joined" as human players for all the nations. (I just realized that I probably could have just set the second player to human and hit "n" until it stopped adding since that would have added all the nations in random order instead of spending so long setting each one manually).

THEN I had to go thru each of the joins and "Load Pretender God" for each one to load in the god they sent me. Then hit start.

Once the ftherland file was generated I could transfer the entire game directory back to my server and run it as a server game.

I have tested it as far as being able to start a game with early, mid, late arcos and have the server run it. I did have a snag when I tried more something about "more than one player cant play the same nation" but it might have been something I did. Im just too easily distracted to to all that crap for 75 nations. PLEASE find an easier way to make it work.

It MIGHT be possible to do the same thing without transfering the files to a windows machine but Im not very fluent in the linux gui environment. For a graphic environment I use windows.

This is going to be a problem for any modded nations. The game is willing to RUN a game with them, but it wont allow signup over the net. So the games will either have to be started the way I just laid out, or as pbem.

Gandalf Parker

Velusion · #3 April 28th, 2007, 03:54 PM

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Gandalf Parker said:

I have tested it as far as being able to start a game with early, mid, late arcos and have the server run it. I did have a snag when I tried more something about "more than one player cant play the same nation" but it might have been something I did.

Gandalf Parker

Thats what I'm concerned about. Once the server is ready, can all the multi-nations connect and select which version of arco they want to play without error? I would have thought the mechanism for selecting which pre-loaded nation to play would have been tied into the same as the mechanism for selecting which empty nation to play...

Velusion · #4 April 28th, 2007, 03:56 PM

BTW if you actually tried to process a turn like that it would have errored out because you have the same CD-key...

I would like to test it with a few volunteers. Anyone up for a quick test if I setup the server(s)? This is just to see if you can upload/connect and play a single turn...

Gandalf Parker · #5 June 12th, 2007, 09:07 PM

Just to update this thread.....

The SingleAge mod has been updated to include the nations from the last upgrade patch. And should also be up to date for the next couple of upgrade patches (Fomoria and Gath)

The discussion on how the mod would work in a big game has of course proven true. Both the pros and cons. Check out the thread on the Perpetuality game.

The Perpetuality game is using a mod which includes my SingleAge mod, and the Streamers and Standards mod, and a couple of small fixit mods. I would very much like to incorporate the Streamers and Standards mod into this one if it is ever brought up to date in a way that I like.

HoneyBadger · #6 June 12th, 2007, 10:57 PM

Nice work, Gandalf-any desire to make a version that incorporates various mod-nations as well?

Sombre · #7 June 12th, 2007, 11:04 PM

It's not exactly hard to add mod-nations to it.

I wouldn't expect S&S to be updated, since Zepath doesn't appear to be around any more. If it was updated, what does 'in a way that I like' mean? It would imagine it would simply have added flags for Tuatha/whatever other vanilla nations were released.

Gandalf Parker · #8 June 13th, 2007, 12:14 AM

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Sombre said:
It's not exactly hard to add mod-nations to it.

I wouldn't expect S&S to be updated, since Zepath doesn't appear to be around any more. If it was updated, what does 'in a way that I like' mean? It would imagine it would simply have added flags for Tuatha/whatever other vanilla nations were released.

Yes filling in the missing nations. And something for the empty slots. Maybe something like the empty flag that it uses for indepts now since I would prefer to return the indepts to the simple banner they have in the vanilla game. I think I would like for the nations to have the big flags and indepts to have something less distracting.
Just a thought

Sombre · #9 June 13th, 2007, 12:58 AM

Setting the indeps to the default banner is as simple as deleting a single line of code.

Setting the empty nation slots to the indep flag seems sort of pointless, but it's also very easy. You have the .tga there already, you just need to set it for each empty nation. The only difference in code between them would be the nation number.

Gandalf Parker · #10 June 13th, 2007, 12:12 AM

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HoneyBadger said:
Nice work, Gandalf-any desire to make a version that incorporates various mod-nations as well?

I dont think it would be hard to do. Delete the appropriate reference to that nation number and paste in the other mod. Or maybe just initialize both mods.

I am finally getting a chance to look at some of the "better AI" mods. The unbalanced ones such as Amos does. Im thinking about going for a mega game with such nations in the empty slots to make if a full 75 nation game. Putting them in as boosted AI's might be fun. And my usual chaotic additions to the map.

Other than that the only mods I would fill in an empty slot with is if someone would do some clone nations. Such as an EXACT match to Early Ulm. I would love it if someone cloned all of the nations. Then we could have a 75 nation game where EVERYONE would get to play whatever nation they wanted. Even if 10 people wanted early Ulm I could think it would allow me to add 10 of them with different nation numbres and slightly different nation name.