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Old May 3rd, 2007, 05:02 PM
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Gold cost for the Helheim units hasn't changed, as far as I could see.

It's funny how earlier people were complaining about Helheim being too strong and now that it got knocked down to size, there are doubts. The way I see it, now you actually have to make CHOICES as to what you're going to do and have a long term impact from it instead of having it all.

It used to be that you just took screwed up scales, hit a double bless and TRRRRRRRRAAAAMMPLLLEEEEEEE! Not anymore. You need more of the very good units to get the same impact and if you go the maximum bless route, you will suffer in other areas where you did not before. The thing is that you can still recruit a Svartalf every turn that you do not recruit a Hangadrott and you can use the Helkarls and Vanjarls as commanders of the armies.
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Old May 3rd, 2007, 05:18 PM
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It might be a little bit extreme, once you consider all three changes that were made. Not sure yet, ofcourse.

I've got a solution, though, to the svartalfr-the typical one for the badger-how about creating a few more svartalfr units? Certainly they should be working for Vanir, but why not some more support units? maybe a unit that throws armor-piercing francescas (axes ala the Francs) and maybe a low-level researcher-like 1 death, 1 earth, that aren't capital only.

Maybe another combat type that can transform into a giant badger

I've got some more ideas along these lines that I'll post later. Right now, I've got an appointment to catch.

Before I go, though, Vanir were famous for being shape-shifters, so they should have access to *something* along these lines.
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Old May 3rd, 2007, 05:22 PM
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HoneyBadger said:Before I go, though, Vanir were famous for being shape-shifters, so they should have access to *something* along these lines.
Like, an ability to make themselves look like anything from a peasant to a peacock and walk unnoticed into enemy castles? Yeah, that'd be awesome!
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