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Old May 4th, 2007, 10:41 AM

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Hi Ian.
Actually no It doesnt work both ways (see my tests) at 150m you -never- kill anymore than 1 man. I woundnt mind at all if occasionally half or all of the squad was hit but this doesnt happen.

The problem is this,
OK we can get 6 fully kitted men in a kubelwagen how often in reality did six fully kitted men get in a kubelwagon? rarely, very rarely. But in the game everyone puts 6 fully kitted infanty in the kubelwagen -every- time you use it because that is what it carries.
Take it a step further
When you look on the internet for pictures of WWII tanks in motion how many of the photos show the tanks covered in infantry? one in a hundred? play PBEM for a while how many players don't load an infantry squad onto every tank, 1 in 100. This is because in the game it has been decided that the maximum carrying capacities have been used for vehicles as can occour in -exceptional- circumstances.
But because you can load your full squads on you do it -all- the time. and why wouldnt you? looking at the lack of casualties caused by a burst of MG fire at 13 men bunched up in a tight ball on the back of a tank anyone would think they were travelling in the tank.
One other problem no one seems to consider is what does the fully kitted infantry use for handholds on the various vehicles while they drive at full speed cross-county for kilometer after kilometer? not a trivial question.
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Old May 4th, 2007, 11:42 AM
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Chuck, is it not obvious to you by now that we have a different idea of what a "big" problem with the game is than you do? Why DO you worry about how many men we allow to load into a kubelwagen? Do you not see that these simple little compromises were made to aid playability and that virtually NOBODY but you has any kind of issue with this?

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Hi Don
Kubelwagen is just an example, Personally I think Carrying capacities are too high for most vehicles in particular tanks.
Id still be interested to know if you think not being able to hit any more than one man when firing with a MG at 150m at a squad of infantry bunched up on the back of a tank is "authentic"?
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We'll look into it after the summer.

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Default Re: Carry Capacity for Jeep, Kuebelwagen, etc.

Here are eight fully equipped British airborne on a jeep, and there's still room for more.
Even without the trailer there are five men on the jeep and there's clearly room for another on the back and the stretcher on the hood/bonnet (UK) is empty.



Perhaps we should upgrade the jeep to allow it to carry a full section/squad

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Well, that's the classical question... How many men will fit into xxxxxx vehicle?

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I have a nice pic of UAZ jeep filled with really LOT of Russian soldiers. We were able to count at least 12, but it is possible one "soldier" on the pic is in fact composition of two
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