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May 10th, 2007, 10:25 AM
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Re: Pershing Icon Set
Yeah, I saw that those were listed in that sites references after I actually scrolled all the way down to the bottom.
It does make we wonder that too, you would think they would be at least close. Someone must have had the measuring tape wrapped around their leg when they were measuring it...LOL...
Here is the kicker though, I resized a M-46 Patton to that sites specs and now it looks too small. I put it next to my T-54/55 and now the T-54/55 is larger than the M-46? Ah, yeah, okay...LOL... Some where something is off? Either there is just a general error some where with specs or my "The Greenhill Armoured Fighting Vehicles Data Book" is flat out wrong. I have a hard time believing that Ian V. Hogg was involved with something flat out wrong. That guy, to the best of my knowledge, has always produced good quality work? If it is my book, that sucks! I have made a ton of icons based on its info.
Either way, who knows, when there are so many different resources published in book form and noted on the web. Could be a combination of everything? Who knows?
Joe
I attached the resized M-46 next to a T-54 with the original M-46 on the bottom. Just so you see what I am referring too.
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May 10th, 2007, 11:55 AM
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Shrapnel Fanatic
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Re: Pershing Icon Set
Hogg's specialty is guns not dimensions of tanks. I doubt very much if he had anything at all to do with the dimensions of the vehicles listed in that guide
Don
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May 10th, 2007, 12:32 PM
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Re: Pershing Icon Set
Yeah, I know, I have quite a few of his publications on artillery. Still, I doubt he would put his name on something he didn't believe was accurate?
Either way. A bit frustrating is what it is.
Thanks for the good talk though Don. Its appreciated.
Joe
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May 10th, 2007, 02:58 PM
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Re: Pershing Icon Set
After reviewing the three top view drawings I have of this thing and making a few adjustment to the Icon this seems to be closer to the proportions of the M26. The composite at the lower right has a rear hull shadow line
3x normal size
Don
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May 10th, 2007, 03:34 PM
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Re: Pershing Icon Set
So, what are the actual pixel dimensions on your mod here?
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May 10th, 2007, 03:41 PM
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Re: Pershing Icon Set
fender to fender no shadow line 42x23. Here it is 1:1
Don
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May 10th, 2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: Pershing Icon Set
That is what my M-46 is in that comparison. I did the M-46 because that was what I was workin on and they are "basically" identical outside of the different engine deck and small details of course.
Do me a favor and slap that modded Pershing next to one of your latest T-54s and post it would ya? I want to see how those look in comparison to my Patton / T-54 comparison.
Oh, I forgot to add something about your mod that made me chuckle. You modded one of the things that I changed right off...LOL... The turret ring. My turret is too small. LOL. Detail oriented eyes look a like.
So all these little detail talks gonna lead to some of my stuff making it into the game again?..LOL...
Joe
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