Thuggity Thug [efficient thug builds]

[lch]

Doesn't need them in case of thejeff's water bless, unless what I heard from somewhere is true: that the Quickness from blessing stacks with the Quickness from spells/items. I don't believe it, would need to try it out. Quickness is cool, true.

[Meglobob]

lch said:
Doesn't need them in case of thejeff's water bless, unless what I heard from somewhere is true: that the Quickness from blessing stacks with the Quickness from spells/items. I don't believe it, would need to try it out. Quickness is cool, true.

Oh its true, it stacks, you can have bless quickness, spell quickness and hall of fame quickness I believe. Triple quickness! Not got this yet personally.

[lch]

Awesomeness.

[Shovah32]

The bles quickness gives +50% ap, the spell quickness gives +3 attack/defence and lets you act twice per round(not spell casting). 8 Guarenteed snake bladder attacks per round+possible extras from the bless.

[HoneyBadger]

I've gotten the 3 quickness combination before, occasionally with a Niefel weilding an arena trident.
12 attacks per round is fun-fun-fun.
Could have even gotten 24 if I'd traded the trident up for 2 swords of swiftness and a ring of the warrior. That's about 720 points of magical damage per round, plus breath-of-winter, for the win.

[Rytek]

Im having fun with EA Pangea. I am using a E9,N9 gorgon.
Minotaur lords with Shrouds of the battle saint makes these into great thugs.

My favorite is Mino Lord with Shroud of battle saint,The Blood Axe that gives a chest wound and beserking (forgot the name of it) Tanglevine shield, Horned helm,boots of the messenger, pendant of luck, bracer of protection (with the earth 9 bless gets 4 more armor) I like the huge beserk bonus they get. After they go beserk they end up with a stupidly high Armor, something like 28.

But really, even just a Mino lord with a Shroud, Horned Helm (need this for the AF modifier) and a Bracer of protection (AF modifier)makes a great thug. Beserk, regenerating, high AF (25+), High hits, low encumberance, fatigue regeneration, and the ability to heal afflictions. All for 15 gems and a cheap gold cost.

[Shovah32]

I love pangaea and the gorgon is a great bless pretender for them. If you like that strategy try LA Pangaea, they get sacred minotaur commanders with armour(you can replace it or leave it on but they dont need the shroud) and aswell as the sacred black centaurs they get dyrad hoplites(15 prot, 13 health, awe) who work great with that bless and dont get too much fatigue(7 enc with 4 reinvig).

Another way to play LA Pangaea is an uber bless, completely trash your scales and take a W9E9N9 Gorgon. Your pretender makes a terrifyingly powerful SC when she breaks free(18 prot and 19 defence from the bless+great regen from personal regen) and until then unstoppable minotaur thugs and powerful sacreds can keep you safe.