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June 5th, 2007, 02:59 PM
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Re: Gently Murderous Winter?
If they were going for your choke point province, you could have cast Wolven Winter on the choke point and then hit them when they were inside of it. Pull your armies back out of the chokepoint when they're about to enter it, cast Wolven Winter; next turn, cast Murderous Winter while moving all your armies back into the chokepoint to intercept the enemy from moving out of the chokepoint. Maybe that's too risky, though, inviting defeat in detail; it also depends upon how much you mind losing all your PD in the chokepoint.
Another thing to do is to combine map-killer spells like Murderous Winter with a pre-casting of Leprosy. Normally you mostly only care about units killed, but if they're diseased the wounds persist. Nice synergy.
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June 5th, 2007, 06:09 PM
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Re: Gently Murderous Winter?
It gets expensive, but you can also cast these artillery spells more than once, and the damage accumulates. You can even take out big guys like elemental royalty this way, if you're dedicated enough.
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June 5th, 2007, 06:18 PM
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Re: Gently Murderous Winter?
Ygorls right there. The best thing is hitting an enemy army(supported by thugs/SCs) with enough artillery to both take out most of his units and thugs aswell as damaging SCs(and maybe giving afflictions).
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June 5th, 2007, 07:36 PM
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Re: Gently Murderous Winter?
On the subject of artillery spells, what works vs EA Nief? Possibly disease at least hoping afflictions accumulate... with such high HP and cold resist it would take like 10 castings of flames from above it seems.
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June 5th, 2007, 07:39 PM
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Re: Gently Murderous Winter?
A couple of flames from afar due to their weakness to fire? Not too useful using artillery spells against a few, high health units unless they are extremely costly(well equipped SCs and such) so i wouldnt even bother casting unless he has a VERY large army.
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June 5th, 2007, 08:28 PM
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Re: Gently Murderous Winter?
Vs. Niefelheim? I doubt Beckoning would be cost-effective, given their high MR. Leprosy would help, but take forever to kill them. Flames From The Sky doesn't kill them but can sometimes give afflictions (you'd probably need 2 or 3 to actually kill more than 10% or so of the units).
Niefelheim is basically not vulnerable to artillery spells. You could try assassination spells instead, or battlefield enchantments like Plague (Woundflame) and Astral Tempest (on teleporting SCs if necessary).
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June 5th, 2007, 08:34 PM
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Re: Gently Murderous Winter?
As something of a Niefel expert-or atleast a Niefel madman-the worst low-level thing we regularly encouter is Curse. It has regular success even against high MR, it targets Niefel Jarls as well as troops, and it makes those expensive, melee giants more vulnerable to afflictions. It won't kill a giant by itself, but enough of them will hurt a lot, in the long run.
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