FAQ: FAQ Discussion & Submissions

[JaghataiKhan]

Q: How do I remove the Curse?
You don't. Curse is permanent and will stay with the unit for the rest of the game. There is NO way to remove it. At all. Removing curses will NOT be added in a patch.

(Same for horrormark)

Excuse me. Do you Dev guys have a psychiological problem about getting "cursed"?

Why do you emphasize it that much? Does it please you or temporarily heal a control problem of yours about other people? Sorry to burst your balloon but:

*Making very stern settings about a condition in game does not make the game "cool" at all.
*Making an irreperable condition on a unit doesn't make players any more careful, I can build thousands of commanders if one is cursed.
*If a "wish" spell doesn't remove a curse, that game has a big mistake in it. (wish is described as influencing the very Fabric of Existence,the first surge of power during Creation, transcending any misfortune or Horror Mark)

[Meglobob]

Got to say I agree with Jaghataikhan, a wish should be capable of removing every ill effect from a unit full stop.

[Edi]

JaghataiKhan, the permanence of curse and horrormark is emphasized in the FAQ to discourage threads about how to remove curses and horrormarks. It has been asked time and again of the developers that a method of removal be added, and it has been refused just as many times. Illwinter has made this game the way they want it to be, and on certain issues they are not going to compromise on it. I do not claim to know all of the reasoning behind it.

For the record, I'm not a member of Illwinter, I just manage the bug threads and bug reporting on the forum as well as the FAQ and the DB (which was made to encourage modding and mapmaking). So if Illwinter decides to change something, then they will and that's that, but in the meanwhile I'm reporting things based on direct statements from the devs. YThe most relevant thread I could find was here.

[Novi]

Say, I've never really tried it, but I wonder why the blood bless is considered so weak? I understand that strength won't help much if units are unable to hit anything at all (take for example Agartha ^^) but when their attack skill is already satisfactory (Vanheim/Helheim) wouldn't they benefit greatly from strength boost?

And what exactly does 'Death Curse' mean? :S

[sum1lost]

Death curse curses an enemy that kills your unit, and supposedly horror marks it as well.

[MaxWilson]

Novi said:
Say, I've never really tried it, but I wonder why the blood bless is considered so weak? I understand that strength won't help much if units are unable to hit anything at all (take for example Agartha ^^) but when their attack skill is already satisfactory (Vanheim/Helheim) wouldn't they benefit greatly from strength boost?

And what exactly does 'Death Curse' mean? :S

It's not the minor blood bless that's considered weak. +2 to +4 to strength can be quite nice, especially vs. heavily-armored troops, although +4 to strength is also easily available via Strength of Giants, which costs no gems. That makes it a little bit less desirable of a bless than Fire or Water minor blesses (+att or +def), which AFAIK are available only via Quickness spells (which either cost gems or affect only a handful of units per casting) or indirectly via Darkness (which costs gems and doesn't help elite units).

But yeah, the B9 bless is weak. I can't speak as to whether B9 magic is weak because I don't typically play blood nations. I know I'm supposed to be playing an evil god, but if I think too hard about the blood slaves I start getting queasy.

-Max

[Jazzepi]

I have a W9/F9/B4 bless in one game I'm playing in, mostly because the blood was very easy to get. I can say that I'm extremely happy with it. It adds +2 damage to each attack.

Jazzepi

[mr_Logic]

Jazzepi said:
I have a W9/F9/B4 bless in one game I'm playing in, mostly because the blood was very easy to get. I can say that I'm extremely happy with it. It adds +2 damage to each attack.

Jazzepi

'course, if you have quickness and +4 att skill, strength is very usefull

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youd say that extra affliction chance of death would be way more effective then death curse...

[sum1lost]

MaxWilson said:

It's not the minor blood bless that's considered weak. +2 to +4 to strength can be quite nice, especially vs. heavily-armored troops, although +4 to strength is also easily available via Strength of Giants, which costs no gems. That makes it a little bit less desirable of a bless than Fire or Water minor blesses (+att or +def), which AFAIK are available only via Quickness spells (which either cost gems or affect only a handful of units per casting) or indirectly via Darkness (which costs gems and doesn't help elite units).

But yeah, the B9 bless is weak. I can't speak as to whether B9 magic is weak because I don't typically play blood nations. I know I'm supposed to be playing an evil god, but if I think too hard about the blood slaves I start getting queasy.

-Max

B9 isn't bad against thugs and supercombatants if you have cheap holies (mictlan, or marignon). Especially if it sometimes horrormarks the killer like I heard it did.

[MaxWilson]

But the B9 Death Curse allows an MR roll, and SCs will tend to have a high MR. It's probably easier just to Spirit Curse or Curse the SC in question with a mage, which does not allow an MR roll. Same thing with the horror marks--it would be nice if there weren't an MR roll, which IIRC there is.

-Max