Best Unit in the Game... Any thoughts?

[Kristoffer O]

I have a vague recollection that we didn't want them to be healed, making inanimated unhealable, but that might be wishful thinking.

[Meglobob]

Fairy queens are absolutely useless when it comes to healing tartarians, they in particular seem to stuggle to heal feeblemind.

[Amhazair]

Gift of health does a rather nice job of curing afflictions on Tartarians. In the one game where I got it up while I had Tartarians I estimate (very rough guess, with a rather small sample size since the game didn't last very long anymore) that afflictions had about 1 chance in 4 of disappearing.

[Meglobob]

The chalice is far better it basically heals same turn the tartarian is summoned or the next turn.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

I have to like the Frost Father. It has a few weaknesses, namely encumberance of 3, and lack of any reinvig. But I've had one, no equipment, only alt 2 spells, take down fifty undead before falling unconscious. Considering I didn't get any use out of the chill aura, that wasn't bad. If i can get the right gear, he'll be untouchable.

[Salamander8]

I had the combo of Gift of Health and having a commander with the chalice in the same army as some of my tartarans in a recent SP game. This really helped cure all those afflictions.

[NTJedi]

Meglobob said:
Fairy queens are absolutely useless when it comes to healing tartarians, they in particular seem to stuggle to heal feeblemind.

The fairy queens and priestesses with healing cannot heal the undead. To heal the undead only Gift of Reason or the Chalice will work.

[PvK]

Kristoffer O said:
I have a vague recollection that we didn't want them to be healed, making inanimated unhealable, but that might be wishful thinking.

I think Tartarians would be much closer to balanced (and more interesting) if their starting afflictions could not be healed.

[CUnknown]

PvK -- balanced relative to what? I think tartarians -are- balanced relative to other level 9 summons that require 7 levels of magic to cast, don't you? I mean, clearly, it wouldn't be appropriate to have them balanced on a per gem basis with, say, a level 1 summons that only requires 1 or 2 levels of magic to cast (e.g. a Black Servant).

[Kristoffer O]

He is comparing them to living gods, who havn't been tortured in tartatus for millenia.