Qm said

[Kristoffer O]

Vinemen are magical, and that was not to change anyway. Just the Kith Leo.

[Xietor]

Vinemen=can only be led by a gardener

[quantum_mechani]

Animal leadership would be nice to have for a number of reasons... I take it this would be a JK level change, right?

[llamabeast]

So do we feel this would help with the elephant issue? I've lost track of exactly why.

I guess perhaps animal leaders would not generally also be human leaders - so it would be harder to mix elephants with infantry. But still definitely doable with a Sceptre of Authority or whatever it's called (cheap low-level fire item).

Also you could have less elephants per group. Would this make much difference. It's not completely obvious to me, but I don't have a lot of elephanty experience.

[Velusion]

llamabeast said:
So do we feel this would help with the elephant issue? I've lost track of exactly why.

I guess perhaps animal leaders would not generally also be human leaders - so it would be harder to mix elephants with infantry. But still definitely doable with a Sceptre of Authority or whatever it's called (cheap low-level fire item).

Also you could have less elephants per group. Would this make much difference. It's not completely obvious to me, but I don't have a lot of elephanty experience.

Recruitable leaders that can control animals might be limited to only manage 10-15 animals. This would make their squads smaller so they will be easier to break via morale.

[Sandman]

About the animal leadership idea... Bandar Log has elephants, and all their other recruitables are animals as well.

[Wick]

Another approach would be shapeshifting like the Black Hunters. When the Mahout is killed the elephant would be split into it's own squad.

Or for laughs use linked shapeshifting like Mahout -> 1st Guy in Howdah -> 2nd Guy...

[sum1lost]

Or the elephant dies and you get a bunch of little mahouts running around!