Jaguar - finished, Szumo declared winner

sum1lost · #1 August 2nd, 2007, 03:56 PM

I think Ich is referring to unit loss. You took more casualties, and lost more gold in that battle.

lch · #2 August 2nd, 2007, 06:08 PM

No, I was referring to the battle report. It shows Bandar log fleeing with few remaining archers for me while the Theurgs burn their hides. You do own the fort now, nonetheless. Must be another case of different battle reports depending on OS.

Dedas · #3 August 2nd, 2007, 07:03 PM

Sorry for interrupting, I looked at the battle and I see Bandar Log clearly loosing. I'm running linux, but maybe it won't matter as the turn is already generated.

Nice with those Soul Slays. Oh and Terror wouldn't have been very effective because of his troops fighting in his own Dominion (+1 morale) and their high experience (+1-2 to morale).
The elephants in the battle had 11 morale (normally 9) and Terror causes a Fear attack of +10, that means that they have to beat 12 with 11 DRN, which is not very very hard. If they instead had been fighting in your dominion (-1) they would have had 9 morale (9 in base +1 experience - 1 dominion) making it difficult for them to beat the morale check (24%).

Lazy_Perfectionist · #4 August 3rd, 2007, 12:13 AM

I've learned some hard lessons about gem use... Despite having read that section, it hadn't quite hit home, and I don't really understand the mechanics to this day.

E3 Oracles without any boosters can't cast Earthquake, right? (Guess) Even if they use one gem to case E4, they'll be short one gem.

With Earthboots, I can cast the spell, and get 112 fatigue points (observed). I'm not quite sure how that tallies up. 3 magic scales in province, if that matters. Spell casting encumberance of 7.

So rather than chain quakes, I slept. I'd forgotten about the gem use limit. If I'd gone earthboots, earthpower, ironskin, earthquake, earthquake, I could have wiped out all their commanders. Instead, six...

On top of that, sloppy formation work (read- none) resulted in my Oracles of the Pincushions taking on arrows and dying early. One guy stuck in the back avoided any unnecessary arrows, but the other...

Well, 50 earth gems down the drain. Over

Well... its time for me to go AI. I've got some forces remaining, but I expect the AI could use them better than I have.

Shall I attempt to later do some sort of AAR report detailing my painful mistakes? I haven't been nearly religious enough about keeping track, unfortunately, even deleting some of my old turn emails.
I've learned several important lessons from this game. Most of them painfully. It's been a pleasure playing, though.

By the way, what turn was it me and R'lyeh had the epic battle. You know, Blade Wind spammo? I'm ready to post it now, if I can find it.

Found. Zipping.

Lazy_Perfectionist · #5 August 3rd, 2007, 12:21 AM

There we go. I've switched to AI, and here's that really good battle.

Sieger · #6 August 5th, 2007, 06:12 AM

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Dedas said:
Sorry for interrupting, I looked at the battle and I see Bandar Log clearly loosing. I'm running linux, but maybe it won't matter as the turn is already generated.

Nice with those Soul Slays. Oh and Terror wouldn't have been very effective because of his troops fighting in his own Dominion (+1 morale) and their high experience (+1-2 to morale).
The elephants in the battle had 11 morale (normally 9) and Terror causes a Fear attack of +10, that means that they have to beat 12 with 11 DRN, which is not very very hard. If they instead had been fighting in your dominion (-1) they would have had 9 morale (9 in base +1 experience - 1 dominion) making it difficult for them to beat the morale check (24%).

I see the same result that Starshine Monarch sees, I inflict extremely heavy losses, kill all his elephants and et cetera, but in the end my forces retreat.

I must admit, while I haven't played many multiplayer games, I have played many games with the pretender I used in this one, and have never, ever, seen her retreat before even once, no matter how badly the battle fared. So I did think it odd she retreated, and was a bit upset about it because I think she could have killed more of those filthy apes!

But, the problem of people seeing different battle reports is well known. I have the turn file of the battle from my end still in my mailbox, and I lose the battle in the end with my forces retreating.

On terror, yeah, once I watched the battle a few times I realized it was not a good spell selection. But I'm still relatively new to multiplayer (this being, along with a few other games I was concurrently in, my first foray into MP.)

Szumo · #7 August 6th, 2007, 04:10 PM

Atlantis has staled 5 last turns. I think it's time to set them to AI.

sum1lost · #8 August 6th, 2007, 07:49 PM

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Szumo said:
Atlantis has staled 5 last turns. I think it's time to set them to AI.

Is he actually staliing, or just not doing anything? Because I think he took a turn a few times, and his army appears to be getting bigger reguarly. At least, occasionally.

llamabeast · #9 August 6th, 2007, 07:55 PM

Staling it seems. And... done!