What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?

thejeff · #1 August 7th, 2007, 08:45 AM

Provinces can revolt?
Are you sure? I don't think I've ever seen it. And I've had provinces sit well over a 100 unrest for many turns.

lch · #2 August 7th, 2007, 11:22 AM

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thejeff said:
Provinces can revolt?
Are you sure? I don't think I've ever seen it. And I've had provinces sit well over a 100 unrest for many turns.

Yup. If they have high unrest in them and a bad event, they can chose to revolt and become independent again.

Hadrian_II · #3 August 7th, 2007, 11:38 AM

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lch said:

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thejeff said:
Provinces can revolt?
Are you sure? I don't think I've ever seen it. And I've had provinces sit well over a 100 unrest for many turns.

Yup. If they have high unrest in them and a bad event, they can chose to revolt and become independent again.

It might be that you not only need high unrest but also some turmoil scales for this event to happen.

Kristoffer O · #4 August 7th, 2007, 11:56 AM

> huh, I didn't know that about the good scales only taking effect in your own dominion

Neither did I, but I might be wrong.

Postitve scales in enemy dom do not count vs research. It affects if event is bad/good. YOu could say that it is good luck for the enemy dominion if you get a nasty event.

I don't think it affects the actual type of event (in regards to what might happen when it has been decided if the event is good or bad).

Barbarian hordes do only appear in misfortune 3 (might need turmoil 1 as well, not sure).
Knights in misfortune 2 IIRC.
Trolls in magical provinces.
Necromancers in Magic, Death and Misfortune IIRC.
Ancient precense in Magic 2 Growth 2 I would guess.

Almost all events (good and bad) has restrictions. Bad events might be restricted by good scales and vice versa.

The dying prince giving you his gold and items needs Death and Fortune.

Jazzepi · #5 August 7th, 2007, 11:59 AM

I tested this in several games. In armadillo I conquered the capital of Argatha who had magic 3. My mages did not get the research bonus until I preached out the 8 levels of dominion.

Jazzepi

Kristoffer O · #6 August 7th, 2007, 12:06 PM

Yep. Enemy magic dom doesn't work for you. Neither do enemy luck scale. It is even bad for you regarding whether the event is good or bad regardless of if it is misfortune or fortune.

But, it will determine if events can appear. A helpful necromancer will not appear if enemy luck is below 1, nor will a barbarian horde attack unless the enemy misfortune is 3.

Jazzepi · #7 August 7th, 2007, 12:06 PM

Barbarian hordes do only appear in misfortune 3 (might need turmoil 1 as well, not sure).

Are you sure about this? I'm positive I've gotten barbarians attacking me with misfortune 2.

Jazzepi

Kristoffer O · #8 August 7th, 2007, 12:09 PM

THere are several kinds of barbarian attacks. I think only one is called a horde. Regardless of the name of the event one is by far bigger than the others.

Endoperez · #9 August 7th, 2007, 04:26 PM

High unrest can make barbarian attacks a common event IIRC, instead of a rare one. I think it's something like a rare event like this [Turmoil 1+: X barbarians attack], and a common event: [Order 1-, unrest 50+: X barbarians attack].

lch · #10 August 7th, 2007, 04:36 PM

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Kristoffer O said:
Barbarian hordes do only appear in misfortune 3 (might need turmoil 1 as well, not sure).
Knights in misfortune 2 IIRC.
Trolls in magical provinces.

I think you might have mixed up the first two. I have seen barbarian hordes, but never knights or trolls. Or maybe Knights don't attack provinces with high order?