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View Poll Results: Your preferred NAP declination?
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Ignore
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Thanks, but a NAP wouldn't suit my strategic interests right now
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When hell freezes over! Prepare to die!
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August 16th, 2007, 02:36 PM
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Major General
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Re: Do you really think that you\'re fooling anyone
I would ignore usually as well.
Ignore sends a clear and consise message as far as I am concerned, sooner or later I will be at war with you so do not want a inconvenient NAP.
I have had a situation sometimes in MP where the player in question mathers me with alot of messages. They don't get that ignoreing there message was the answer.
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August 16th, 2007, 03:10 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: Do you really think that you\'re fooling anyone
Reason #34b why i dislike diplomacy: many people just don't answer.
Being the ridiculously passive Dom player that i am, i mostly wait for others to offer the NAPs, so it doesn't come up that often. I also do my level best to only make NAPs with players i've had successful NAPs with before, so that limits the options.
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August 16th, 2007, 03:16 PM
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Major General
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Re: Do you really think that you\'re fooling anyone
I'm the only one who picked option 3? You guys are no fun at all.
Keep in mind: as in Poker, it's to your advantage to be sometimes caught bluffing.
DOOM!
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August 16th, 2007, 03:57 PM
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General
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Re: Do you really think that you\'re fooling anyone
Sometimes ignoring the message is the answer, sometimes its "I'm really busy and can barely play my turns and forgot about the message."
I generally try to make at least the first few messages in character, so I'll usually follow up an unanswered message with some kind of IC response to being ignored and a warning that I'll have no choice but to consider you hostile.
As for initial response, I'll sometimes stall by negotiating terms without actually agreeing to anything. Borders, length of treaty, even bring up cooperation against others.
Of course, I like to do some of this when I do want the treaty. Or I may be waiting for other negotiations. If I've got 2 potential targets, I may prefer to attack one, but if he offers a treaty, I don't want to reject it until I've got a deal with the other.
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August 16th, 2007, 04:18 PM
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Corporal
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Re: Do you really think that you\'re fooling anyone
I know I'm a bit new and all, but most people I've had NAPs with break them. So I don't really get the point. Not anymore.
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August 16th, 2007, 04:33 PM
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Sergeant
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Re: Do you really think that you\'re fooling anyone
I'm glad that a majority seems to be selecting option 2 as I did. Maybe I'm thin skinned, but ignoring a friendly message like that just seems to be unnecessarily rude most of the time.
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August 16th, 2007, 04:46 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: Do you really think that you\'re fooling anyone
If R'lyeh asks Atlantis for a NAP, and controls the only body of water? Nah...
I couldn't think of a dignified response. The choice of letting them get stronger and dieing next...
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August 16th, 2007, 04:29 PM
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Captain
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Re: Do you really think that you\'re fooling anyone
Asking a NAP from a neighbour is a bit like asking some girl to a date in one regard:
No answer is an answer, and also it tells you that the one not giving you any answer is either just impolite, plain jerk or doesn't care enough to answer.
You can stall with other ways, or give very polite denial. You know, actually communicate.
Of course, cultural variations exist. I've run into some with foreign (to me) dominions players, with people preferring not to give a "no, I won't" answer in any situation, claiming they actually can't. And afterwards proving with actions they actually could have, just didn't want to. Which, to me, is the way you treat a child, not another adult. But apparently is "polite norm" in some places. Had a quite long conversation about these cultural differences a while back.
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August 16th, 2007, 05:26 PM
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Major General
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Re: Do you really think that you\'re fooling anyone
Quote:
Meglobob said:
I would ignore usually as well.
Ignore sends a clear and consise message as far as I am concerned, sooner or later I will be at war with you so do not want a inconvenient NAP.
I have had a situation sometimes in MP where the player in question mathers me with alot of messages. They don't get that ignoreing there message was the answer.
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I like pestering Meglobob until he replies.
My messenger was eaten by a grue! Again!
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August 16th, 2007, 05:52 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: Do you really think that you\'re fooling anyone
I often take ignoring my offer to a NAP as an act of war. Is that too harsh?
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