Do you really think that you're fooling anyone? - Page 2

Ubercat · #11 August 16th, 2007, 04:33 PM

I'm glad that a majority seems to be selecting option 2 as I did. Maybe I'm thin skinned, but ignoring a friendly message like that just seems to be unnecessarily rude most of the time.

Lazy_Perfectionist · #12 August 16th, 2007, 04:46 PM

If R'lyeh asks Atlantis for a NAP, and controls the only body of water? Nah...
I couldn't think of a dignified response. The choice of letting them get stronger and dieing next...

Ubercat · #13 August 16th, 2007, 04:49 PM

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Lazy_Perfectionist said:
If R'lyeh asks Atlantis for a NAP, and controls the only body of water? Nah...
I couldn't think of a dignified response. The choice of letting them get stronger and dieing next...

I can see how a NAP offer could be insulting from someone who is in the act of strangling your expansion options. It makes me wonder how much MP experience they have. Perhaps they haven't caught on that human players are smarter than AI ones?

Lazy_Perfectionist · #14 August 16th, 2007, 05:07 PM

Well... its quite possible I would have taken it - I was penned in on all sides, and had already signed NAP pacts with two neighbors. I wasn't insulted, but a dignified response would have been troublesome. However, my other opponent had been taken out, and I had only a few options. Attack one of the two neighboring cold resistant nations. My only neighbor who wasn't cold resistant or R'lyeh was already being invaded by them.

Jazzepi · #15 August 16th, 2007, 05:26 PM

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Meglobob said:
I would ignore usually as well.

Ignore sends a clear and consise message as far as I am concerned, sooner or later I will be at war with you so do not want a inconvenient NAP.

I have had a situation sometimes in MP where the player in question mathers me with alot of messages. They don't get that ignoreing there message was the answer.

I like pestering Meglobob until he replies.

My messenger was eaten by a grue! Again!

Jazzepi

Cor2 · #16 August 16th, 2007, 05:52 PM

I often take ignoring my offer to a NAP as an act of war. Is that too harsh?

Lazy_Perfectionist · #17 August 16th, 2007, 06:16 PM

Probably. But by a thin margin.
It's not unreasonable to consider it cause for war footing, or reason to pick one nation over another to attack.

But I don't think ignoring an offer to a NAP is an act of war. I consider an act of war something that requires retaliation, such as ghouls or assassins, and results in you suffering harm.

If ignoring nations was an act of war, why guess where America would be, these last few years.

Tichy · #18 August 16th, 2007, 07:23 PM

Agree with Lazy P: I would take ignoring a request for NAP as a presumption that war *will* occur, but not the same as a declaration that we are at war. Just that we aren't not at war.

...which I think is my guess for that last bit as well.

Gandalf Parker · #19 August 16th, 2007, 09:43 PM

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Cor2 said:
I often take ignoring my offer to a NAP as an act of war. Is that too harsh?

"If you arent my friend then you must be my enemy." Is that it?
Thats not really how I take it. I try to be selective of who I NAP with (hmm, interesting pun). Because I think of it as the first stage to an alliance. I dont want to accept all naps that are offered because eventually I will have to choose who to keep and who to break. And I HATE breaking naps. Id rather hold off on making one than to have to declare it going down at a later point.

Sir_Dr_D · #20 August 16th, 2007, 10:11 PM

The problem is, if people do not reply you don't know if the person actually got the message, which can be annoying.