Neo Xekinima - LA game of Mod nations (finished)

[Sombre]

Pfff is a typical demon sound. As if further proof were needed.

[Nikolai]

> Pfff is a typical demon sound. As if further proof were needed.

You are looking for a job in the Inquisition, or wanting to tease the Priesthood? It's not as if Ulm looks to need much excuse to declare abominations left and right!

[Tuidjy]

Actually, Sombre is very much correct. "Pfff" is exactly the sound demons make
when a quarrel embeds itself in their gut. Our soldiers have become quite used
to the sound. And, of course, by that time, no further proof is needed.

[Jazzepi]

Alright, I'm going AI. I'll remember to avoid pacts with people who use roleplaying as a pretext to ignore them at their convenience, not that it matters much.

Jazzepi

[Tuidjy]

Hold a freaking second! I have every single piece of correspondence ever
exchanged between the two of us. I sent you four messages:

In the first I agreed to three turns of peace, during which you would observed.
I said I would be looking for demons, undead, and blood slaves.

In the second I agreed to a three turn non-aggression pact, and once again, I
stipulated that I will not tolerate unholy activity. I asked for clarification
on one point of the agreement. You did clarify it.

In the third, I spelled out the terms, and twice I stated "We will attack if we see
demons, undead, or sacrificial slaves." I explicitly asked you to return the
signed treaty, i.e. to confirm my terms. You did not answer that message.

In the fourth, after seeing Dog Soldiers in the castle near my borders, I
pretended being unsure whether they were "the members of a strangely named
regiment, or unholy crossbreeds". I stated that I was worried that you had not
returned my previous message, that Ulm "will exit the treaty in the most
honorable manner", and would still give you the three months that the treaty
called for. I had no plans to attack, but by no means was I bound by any
treaties after those three turns.

So, Hell no, I am not ignoring any treaties! Even if you had confirmed the
treaty, which you did not, even if I had not exited it correctly, which I did,
you had the audacity to bring demons to my freaking borders, which was a
violation of the terms of the treaty, and which I made damn clear in every single
message.

I, the player, demand an apology.

[Jazzepi]

Oh no, those are definitely the terms of the treaty. It's really silly though, if you look at Jomon's makeup every caster, almost all commanders, and the high morale units are demons/undead. There's no possible way for me to even come close to abiding by the terms of it. Since I'm breaking it all the time, you might as well have a free "breaking of the treaty card" ready.

Also, I didn't bring those units to you borders, you attack Sylvania and happened to stumble upon them. You ignored the fact that I had "dogmen" commanders earlier during the establishment of the treaty, and offered not to push your scouts any deeper. That seems a fairly trite convenience to me. I mean, really, if you're trying to be uber anti-demon/undead/blood sacrifice I think it is your duty to investigate with that, and other, scouts instead of just leaving it up in the air.

But however you want to play your nations is fine, and I did agree to the terms, which in my opinion you know, and I know, I could never abide by simply by the makeup of Jomon's recruitable units. I didn't mean to offend you personally, but I will be much more wary of making pacts with people who are heavy role players. I'm here to play the game itself. Role playing is not high on my list, at all.

Admittedly pretext is a bad word to use. I don't think there was any subterfuge in Tuidjy's treaty, but invariably the reason the treaty was broken is for role playing, and not strategic, reasons.

Jazzepi

[Tuidjy]

Well, I had announced that I considered Ulm at war with the demons very early.
I was surprised you were asking for a treaty, but technically, what did the
priests know about Jomon? They had not seen demons, the troops we'd seen
happened to be mercenaries and humans, and you were being peaceful. I thought it
made sense that they would accept. Afterwards, when the scouts noticed the Dog
soldiers, it was only player knowledge that told me they were demons. I thought
the treaty was untenable, and I exited it, following the terms to the letter.

As for he final 'pretext', yes, I was moving east, but you did bring demons at my
original borders. By that time, I had decided to invade, but remember that the
treaty was no longer current. Furthermore, I had just discovered that Ulm's
national summons are undead... and I discovered it by summoning them, so the
priests could only object to demons with a straight face.

I am usually not a roleplayer. I am making an effort in this game, because I
love the mod... but I do not use roleplaying as an excuse to lie and cheat. In
any case, now that the misunderstanding is cleared, it's time to get down to
business. And business for Ulm is mostly killing demons. It is amazing how much
of that we have been doing, lately.

By the way, do not feel bad about this game. It's hard to survive as the central
power. The only thing has worked for me is to pair the neighbors two by two and
start a war with half of them, letting the other half have more than they
deserve. You pulled it off perfectly with Vaettiheim and Teutianon, and Ulm was
constantly at war anyway. The elves were your downfall. We are only bringing
the last nail to the coffin. And it looks like a crossbow quarrel :-)