Rangefinder values how are they determined?

[noxious]

chuckfourth said:
Hi noxious thanks for your reply.
As far as I can make out you are correct in that Scherenfernrohr 14 was not a rangefinder per see but was used as such just as a tankers binoculars could be.

Yes.

It is interesting to me that shermans can get range finder values of 5 or 6 whereas these vehicles with a sf14 get a 3 or 4? surely this should be the other way around?

I dont think there is a strict 1:1 relationship between the vision equipment of the tank and this number. How a gun works in game depends on many numbers working together, I think. Gun accuracy, Fire Control, Rangefinder and perhaps other work together to create gun performance.

What is wrong with StuG-Jagdpanzer gun performance?

"The 14-power Scherenfernrohr 14 Ziel Gitter, or stereo binocular, served as a rangefinder for the artillery and was a mainstay of forward observers to gauge distances."

Yes, you cannot observe 2 kilometers away with the naked eye. So you need binoculars. Obviously.

Nox

[chuckfourth]

Hi Nox
Well I think there is a 1:1 relationship here, or there should be, because we have for the gun,
Accuracy, reflects the flatness of the guns trajectory ie this should correlate closely with the weapons muzzle velocity.
then the vehicle has
Fire control, this is the gun sight and should correlate with the sights magnification, field of view might also be considered.
Rangefinder, this is for a rangefinder surely?
Stabiliser, this is for a stabiliser, A few american tanks had this
So what factor do you think might be included into the rangefinder value here other than the presence and quality of a rangefinder?

Also it appears that in v6 and prior SPCAMO agreed with me, ie all the shermans had a range finder value of 2 However after v6 the shermans get the higher range finder values, ie threes, fives and sixes. For instance in v6 unit 135 in the USA OOB, M4A3 (76) used to have a range finder value of 2 now it is 5. The lower value of 2 agrees with my thinking. I would be interested to know what the reasoning was behind this change?

Regards your last comment my point is that the sf14 can see better, much better than binoculars at 2 kilometers. Hence I believe the sf14 should delever a higher range finder value.
Best regards Chuck.

[PanzerBob]

If you do not like it change it, one of the beauties of the gsme.

Prost!

[chuckfourth]

Hi PanzerBob
Thanks for the advice, but as I only play PBEM I like to leave the game as packaged. I just think to myself maybe the panzerjagers left their periscopes/rangefinders at home today.
However
I am working on the premis that everyone would like the game to be as authentic a representation of the units depicted as possible. If you have a look at my posts you will see that in each one I have a valid point to make. Usually the more esoteric points require some defence.
Best regards Chuck.

[PanzerBob]

Good day, Chuckforth.

I guess the comment was more for those who are unaware of the possibilities with this game. I haven't PBEM in some time, but exchanging OOB's before play is not out of question providing both sides agree to the changes. BTW, I do concur with your RF assessment.

Prost!