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August 27th, 2007, 10:25 AM
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Re: Idiot\'s Guide to Making Custom Maps?
The game doesnt actually recognize the boundaries as far as in-game clicking. Only the dots.
If your map is playing too small for comfort then you might want to change the defaultzoom in the .map file
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August 27th, 2007, 02:04 PM
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Re: Idiot\'s Guide to Making Custom Maps?
I only have single pixel white dots now.
My problem is that when I click (in game) in a space that looks like part of one province, the computer selects a different province. Now, if I click right on the flag, I always get the correct province. But for long or irregularly shaped provinces (see my attachment) this is a problem.
Now, maybe this is how the game is... where you click on the overland map, it just selects the closest white dot. But I have never had this problem when playing a map I did not make personally. Then again, most provinces are roughly spherical in the maps I have played. So maybe this will be a problem on any map with dramatically nonspherical provinces. (This is my conclusion based on what Gandalf said above.)
The image I attached isnt meant to be a real map, of course, but it is a tool for explaining my problem, and for me learning the system.
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August 27th, 2007, 02:31 PM
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Re: Idiot\'s Guide to Making Custom Maps?
The attachment is not working for me.
404 file not found... attachments broken again?
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August 27th, 2007, 02:32 PM
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Re: Idiot\'s Guide to Making Custom Maps?
You haven't attached anything anywhere, from how I see it. The game counts mouseclicks towards the next nearest white dot, and depending on the shape of your provinces and placement of those white dot "centers", that might not be what you had in mind.
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August 27th, 2007, 03:08 PM
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Re: Idiot\'s Guide to Making Custom Maps?
Ballbarin - it says 7 people downloaded the attachment about 6 posts up from here. Maybe they all failed? I don't know. Maybe I can PM it to you if you are interested?
Ich - What do you mean " counts mouseclicks towards the next nearest white dot"
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August 27th, 2007, 03:20 PM
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Re: Idiot\'s Guide to Making Custom Maps?
Download counts don't matter. 3 of those are me trying the link and getting a 404.
I think what Ich means is that wherever you click, the game selects the closest province marker to that point and that becomes the selected province.
The game does not know, nor care about the shape of the province or it's borders. All it cares about is the almighty white dot.
So imagine that "1" is a province that circles province "2".
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If 1's white dot is located in the top center spot and I click on the bottom center spot, then province 2 is going to be selected, not 1.
Hope that helps to clear things up.
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August 27th, 2007, 03:25 PM
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Re: Idiot\'s Guide to Making Custom Maps?
Ballbarin - yeah, that clears it up. That was sorrt of what I was worried was the truth. I was hoping there was some way for me to define boundaries for the map, so if I clicked anywhere in province 1, it would go to 1 in your above example, not province 2.
But I guess this is not possible. sad face. thanks for confirming that. I guess I have to limit my gerrymander provinces, or be okay with this issue happening.
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August 27th, 2007, 04:19 PM
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Re: Idiot\'s Guide to Making Custom Maps?
Apparently red borders helps, but not much. It just wasnt efficient to put alot of "thinking code" into trying to figure out how much of a province is inside of a really crazy boundary. I think its one of the reasons we have the flags (which I mostly find irritating)
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