Amoscalypse Now - FFA Mod game (1 spot is open!)

Sombre · #1 August 29th, 2007, 01:58 PM

There is no 'approved mod list'. The mod list was/is just a list of the mods in the Mods and Maps subforum. I tried to keep my personal bias out of it.

Amos' nations aren't AI nations. An AI nation would be designed specifically for the AI, like the AI Mictlan I made. Amos' nations just don't use Dom3 vanilla balance.

I think it was implied that you had to pick a dom3 mod (or at least one that actually work with dom3). If it's a dom2 mod that doesn't work with dom3 you might as well be claiming Counter Strike, Rome: Total Realism or Action Quake as your nation.

Feel free to find mods I know nothing about, as long as they work (properly) in dom3.

Gandalf Parker · #2 August 29th, 2007, 03:50 PM

The Dom2 mods of False Dawn and Trolls do work in Dom3
The others would need some small fixing if I remember right

lch · #3 August 29th, 2007, 04:11 PM

I guess we have enough players now, drafting is closed.

I certainly don't disallow water nations, it's just that there are not many UW mod nations. Amos mods are not mandatory, too, but there are lots of them and they are what this game is about: Mod nations that are too powerful for base game.

About False Dawn, I haven't played them, but I think that with them you'll be no match against the heavy guns that the others will have. And I'll just rule you out by saying that this is not what I'd call a great effort at modding (sorry, void) considering this seems to be a very first mod of somebody and it doesn't have any new graphics. Not that it would need them to be good, but this game should play differently, you should see foes you haven't seen before.

Sombre · #4 August 29th, 2007, 04:18 PM

If they work as dom3 mods, you can pick them. Test them before to make sure though.

'Trollheim' is a predecessor of Vaettiheim SE and a very simple mod. I guess it's complete enough to count as a nation mod though, if anyone wants to use it. I can tell you it would get utterly crushed in this game.

Edit: Looks like lch has spoken. Trollheim and False Dawn don't make the cut.

Wikd Thots · #5 August 29th, 2007, 04:52 PM

Starting to sound like the IRC channel.
Never mind. Pull me out as a player.

lch · #6 August 29th, 2007, 05:16 PM

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Wikd Thots said:
Starting to sound like the IRC channel.

Huh? What do you mean?

You can play what you want, I can just tell you that you're very likely going to make a very short impression on the game against the other nations if you don't draw level with them.

Anyway, I want to start the game. If somebody else wants to join then he can feel free to, but at least for playtesting and pretender design I'll create the preliminary mod now.

lch · #7 August 29th, 2007, 06:48 PM

It will take me some time to prepare the preliminary mod, as DrP's awk script fails yet again... (this time, with autosummons and some other stuff in the army lists)

I'll do it by hand again, but will catch some sleep first.

Xox · #8 August 30th, 2007, 02:32 AM

IF the new patch eta is within a week or two, we should wait for that, I think.

Wikd Thots · #9 August 30th, 2007, 05:04 PM

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lch said:

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Wikd Thots said:
Starting to sound like the IRC channel.

Huh? What do you mean?

You can play what you want, I can just tell you that you're very likely going to make a very short impression on the game against the other nations if you don't draw level with them.

Thank you. That is exactly what I meant. What old wimpy "can't say anything is wrong" calls countar productive is what I call egotistical.

That is what kills the IRC channel. Hey everyone, come join IRC and play blitzes. Newbies welcome, we will teach you. But when a game is setting up and a newbie declares then the experts rate it like a bookie figuring a point spread. The game is won before it is played. Newbies leave and don't come back.

What good is it to start a game with everyone bringing your own favorite mod nation if the only acceptable choices are Amos mods? They are great for this purpose and it will be an interesting game but why not just say Amos Only at the beginning instead of killing any interest ahead of time in using any other? Besides that there IS a chance that even YOU might be surprised. One of the others might add something interesting to the game. Maybe even win? (no of course not)

Sombre · #10 August 30th, 2007, 05:23 PM

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Wikd Thots said:
Thank you. That is exactly what I meant. What old wimpy "can't say anything is wrong" calls countar productive is what I call egotistical.

What's egotistical about it? No-one's saying they're better players, just that the mods are of clearly different power levels. Which you'd know, if you looked at them.

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That is what kills the IRC channel. Hey everyone, come join IRC and play blitzes. Newbies welcome, we will teach you. But when a game is setting up and a newbie declares then the experts rate it like a bookie figuring a point spread. The game is won before it is played. Newbies leave and don't come back.

The IRC channel isn't dead. It's going strong and new people are still joining it, discussing, chatting and, yes, joining blitzes. I've never seen anyone behaving in the way you describe, either.

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What good is it to start a game with everyone bringing your own favorite mod nation if the only acceptable choices are Amos mods? They are great for this purpose and it will be an interesting game but why not just say Amos Only at the beginning instead of killing any interest ahead of time in using any other? Besides that there IS a chance that even YOU might be surprised. One of the others might add something interesting to the game. Maybe even win? (no of course not)

The very first post points out both Urdheim and Mushroom Kingdom as well as Amos' mods. Yes, Amos' mods were in mind when this game was created, because he's the most prolific nation mod maker and people really enjoy his stuff, yet no MP to my knowledge has ever been played using his nations. They are generally speaking highly overpowered, but so are a number of other mod nations, including (apparently) Magoserium, which has been picked for the game. The name was a hint though.

I can't say for sure which nation will win, or even do well, but I do know that nations like Sylvania which were intended to be balanced with dom3 and (sort of) are will just get steamrollered. If you call that egocentric, fair enough. Have you actually compared Sylvania with, say,.. Stigian Corruption, though? Because you seem like you're just running your mouth for the sake of it. Some perceived slight from the IRC channel maybe?

By the way, I think the main reason lch rejected False Dawn was because it has no new graphics, which makes it considerably less interesting than other mods.