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October 10th, 2007, 07:34 AM
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Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?
Same probably goes for Fomorians. They are a lot like Niefel in that respect, except Fomoria can be really goddamn scary. They have Divine Serpent as one of the pretender choices, and going for an imprisoned, with N3 and startdom 3 that allows for N10 blessing (20% regen, +2 berserk), Dominion 6 and seven positive scales to start with. Alternatively, you could tack on E4 blessing to get them reinvigoration. At a cost of 110 each, you can start going to town with them very early, even without tax 200 & patrol and they just will not die.
They lack the Niefel Giant's cold aura, but they have 50% cold immunity and can go underwater, so if you start on the coast, you can gain holdings that are safe from all but water nations for a good while.
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October 10th, 2007, 07:37 AM
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Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?
Go for the nasty single target spells, Blindness, paralyze soulslay, rage etc.
Keep em busy with minor summons like ghost wolves.
Even better a small horde of undead with darkness works well.
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October 10th, 2007, 07:55 AM
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Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?
Fighting niefelheim in the late stages of the game is no real issue. The problem is if they come gunning for you early, you simply cannot stop that.
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October 10th, 2007, 08:19 AM
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Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?
And now with Fomoria, even the water nations aren't safe from a regenerating giant rush.
Fomorian Giants have javelins, too... range 24 damage 27 javelins. Very nasty (although the long range and fomorians' 8 prec does lead to a lot of scatter, most humans won't survive even one hit).
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October 10th, 2007, 08:41 AM
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Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?
Do fomorian giants have chill 15 too?...
Regenerating giants arent a problem absolutely, stacking chill is. And then there are recruitable SCs, and goddamn scary ones too. With right mages to equip them.
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October 10th, 2007, 08:42 AM
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Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?
No, Fomorians don't have chill aura.
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October 10th, 2007, 09:52 AM
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Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?
Then Fomorians arent half as bad. 
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October 10th, 2007, 10:29 AM
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Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?
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Regenerating giants arent a problem absolutely, stacking chill is. And then there are recruitable SCs, and goddamn scary ones too. With right mages to equip them.
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Yes, I tried it once and my 2 paralyzed niefel jarls killed an army just thanks to chill (+ regeneration but it was hardly useful) (I had put them some more chill with the appropriate armor and spells). Just standing there paralysed, they killed a whole army which tried to come nearby.
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October 10th, 2007, 11:57 AM
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Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?
High chill effect is very nasty but so is high heat aura. It is interesting to watch Abysia and Niefelheim clash as they both give each other massive fatigue.
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