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mathusalem · #1 October 16th, 2007, 11:40 AM

I don't like Heroic Obesity and it's too common for myself.

I don't like the idea of an obese SC (how does he wear is armor ??)

Kristoffer O · #2 October 16th, 2007, 12:03 PM

He draws a deep breath and have an enslaved jotun place a foot on his back and pull, pull and *clasp*, there you have your whale bone corset.

Why should it be a prerogative of skinny men to wear armor?

> I don't like the idea of an obese SC

Strange! I think it is one of the most likeable features in the game

I'm still chuckle when I remember the guy that posted about his fatso-assassins

Jourdelune · #3 October 16th, 2007, 02:13 PM

Does the heroic ability trigger on certain condition?

A lot of my commander took heroic precision. Those have all used either bow or spell (Vines Arrow).

I got some heroic tougness on melee guy... perhaps he got a high crit damage?

I would be happy to see a list of those heroic ability with their conditions to trigger them.

I never got heroic obesity on 200 hours playing time approx. I wish I could trigger it.

Jourdelune

Edratman · #4 October 17th, 2007, 11:34 AM

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Jourdelune said:
Does the heroic ability trigger on certain condition?

A lot of my commander took heroic precision. Those have all used either bow or spell (Vines Arrow).

I got some heroic tougness on melee guy... perhaps he got a high crit damage?

I would be happy to see a list of those heroic ability with their conditions to trigger them.

I never got heroic obesity on 200 hours playing time approx. I wish I could trigger it.

Jourdelune

Your not getting heroic obesity makes me wonder if there is a nation dependent factor in the HOF categories. It is one of the 4 or 5 common ones for me when I play Bandar Log MA, the nation that I play the most at present.

What nation are you playing?

Endoperez · #5 October 17th, 2007, 12:42 PM

Who are getting the obesity? Size 3 bandar? That'd work with my more supplies -> more obese heroes theory. If it's size 2 gurus/rishis, who GENERATE supplies, the theory is bogus (but thankfully, doesn't kill anyone).

Edratman · #6 October 17th, 2007, 02:39 PM

My experience does not disprove your theory. It is the size 3 Bandar that are getting the obesity. I do not remember any instances where a mage got obesity. And I almost exclusively use the bandar for leading troops into combat, only using the size 2 commanders as ferry captains. My preferred technique is to outfit the Bandar commanders with bows (actually I do this with all the mundane combat commanders I can, no matter what nation I play).
So I can usually get at least 2, sometimes 3 in the HOF in the early game. I always set HOF at 15 so I can get more in also.

It was a size 2 commander that got the Heroic Stupidty though. He got his experience ferrying reinforcements into battle as I was capturing the provinces surrounding the capital.

lch · #7 October 17th, 2007, 02:42 PM

I had a Helheim Dis get the obesity thing once.

Taqwus · #8 October 16th, 2007, 02:15 PM

It's one of the more comical quirks of the game.

I've had a heroically obese Jotun scout somehow still sneaking around, no doubt gathering intelligence exclusively in pubs...

Endoperez · #9 October 16th, 2007, 06:43 PM

I think the various heroic abilities depend on the chassis. Like, units that consume few supplies get Heroic Toughness more often than Heroic Obesity, and vice versa. I'm not sure what someone would have to do to get Heroic Stupidity, but it's decent for a thug that doesn't have magic. On normal infantry leaders, yeah, it's bad.

Taqwus · #10 October 16th, 2007, 06:55 PM

Hmmmmmmm. Maybe somebody like an Oni leader with a negative research bonus would be more likely.