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October 17th, 2007, 12:58 PM
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Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
Army will rout when it has taken 75% in casualties, or when battle duration ends. See page 80 of the manual.
One thug and bodyguards may cause rout, but some bodyguards with several thugs could work. Say, Jotun Herses and 7 bodyguard giants. Even if all the bodyguards die/rout, it's just 70% casualties and the herses keep fighting until one of them dies.
EDIT: two bodyguards and one thug also works
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October 18th, 2007, 01:06 AM
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Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
Could someone please define THUG vs. SC (I'm assuming SC means Single Combat)?
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October 18th, 2007, 01:23 AM
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Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
SC is super combatant.
the simplipied version is SCs can function alone and take out entire armies.
Thugs are like SCs but weaker and they must have the support of an army (or a group of other thugs) to win. They often support armies or groups raid poorly defended provinces.
the line between SCs and thugs is a bit blurry.
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October 18th, 2007, 01:08 PM
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Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
I played a SP game where Pythium cast Wild Hunt, and I duly got my mage/priests hunted down. The bodyguard tended to be a liability as if (when) they routed the hero also routed and died. The thugs/SCs alone tended to defeat the pack of beasties.
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October 22nd, 2007, 04:50 PM
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Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
OK, I used a Golam as an SC for three reasons: 1. They have good HP. 2. They are strong, so they do a lot of damage in combat. 3. They never run away from a battle.
Equipped with Aegis shield, Obsidian armor, Astral Skullcap, Druid Boots, Antimagic Amulet, Lucky Combat Amulet, and Frost Bane sword. Very effective. He took five provinces out by himself and died trying to storm a city on his own. It was a good experiment. I think the weak spot was his helmet. I guess you need to have some really high levels to build really good helmets.
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October 22nd, 2007, 06:49 PM
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Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
The starshine skullcap is pretty much the premier helm outside of the lightning spamming one for SC's since it gives MR. (very useful for SC's in Multi) You pretty much learned your lesson I think on why you first attempt failed. also I should point out lizard provinces are thug killers. They can also take out SC chassis without luck + ethereal very handily because of their high dmg attacks as well as curse. Lastly you should look into damage shield items such as the every popular charcoal shield and the slightly less effective Breath of winter and bone armor one.
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October 22nd, 2007, 09:59 PM
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Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
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KissBlade said:
The starshine skullcap is pretty much the premier helm outside of the lightning spamming one for SC's since it gives MR. (very useful for SC's in Multi) You pretty much learned your lesson I think on why you first attempt failed. also I should point out lizard provinces are thug killers. They can also take out SC chassis without luck + ethereal very handily because of their high dmg attacks as well as curse. Lastly you should look into damage shield items such as the every popular charcoal shield and the slightly less effective Breath of winter and bone armor one.
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Not only do they have high damage attacks, but those lizards have 2 attacks each, which means they almost always hit once they start to swarm.
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October 24th, 2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
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OK, I used a Golam as an SC for three reasons: 1. They have good HP. 2. They are strong, so they do a lot of damage in combat. 3. They never run away from a battle.
Equipped with Aegis shield, Obsidian armor, Astral Skullcap, Druid Boots, Antimagic Amulet, Lucky Combat Amulet, and Frost Bane sword. Very effective. He took five provinces out by himself and died trying to storm a city on his own. It was a good experiment. I think the weak spot was his helmet. I guess you need to have some really high levels to build really good helmets.
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The helmet was fine... I would switch out the amulet of luck since the golem can cast luck in battle.
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