Some things

EvilKnight · #1 March 12th, 2002, 06:10 AM

i didnt mean funnest like it sounds ok.

Gryphin · #2 March 12th, 2002, 07:07 AM

EvilKnight,
Gotcha,
Based on what is on the box? I've been buying games for over 20 years. I can't say never. I can say that I belive the main factors have been:
Recomendations by others
Experiance with the companys other games, (this is more for board games). This does not hold as true for computer games.
Since I don't buy "arcade style / shoot em ups", I belive I have always looked for a referance to the 3Xs even before I was aware they ad been "defined". The key words for me were always Strategy, Conquest, Eploring, Expansion, War game and the like.
Um, If I understand
"most gamers (expessailly stragegy games start like that). "
You mean that most stratey game players start out as RPG players. I would have to say that is your experiance. I personaly doubt you can make that broad a statement. It may have changed since I was in my early 20s.

ER: no, not that you were knocking the game, but rather we addressed the comments you made and were careful to apply it to ourselves and our gneral experiance with others.

Yes, within the WarGame community there is a lot of mutual respect and many friendships built like the ones intermixed with the Gryphin GrowlTigga thread, (now the "Ye Olde Galatic Bar and Grill and Phongs Head Cantina").

EvilKnight, please don't feel like we are picking on you. We truly are just exchanging views and sharing experiances. Try to remember that tone inflection does not come through in print. Catch some of my other post and I think you will find I am harmless, (unless you are on the recieving end of my Torps).
Enjoy the game and I hope to trade blows with you in PBW some day.

mac5732 · #3 March 12th, 2002, 07:17 AM

EvilKnight, please don't feel that anyone thinks you are knocking the game, if that is the impression you got, I apologise, this forum is open and has frank discussions on all kinds of topics, everyones opinion counts and most are discussed, that doesn't mean anyone is downplaying you. If you read the threads on this forum, you will see quite a number of questions, discussions and good and bad points concerning the game, this forum is not like most others, everyone is allowed to say what they feel and in the process opens it up for discussion by the rest of us. If you took our responses out of context I once more apoligise for myself, no offense intended, by discussing things is how we end up petitioning MM for changes, thats what makes this game and forum unique, because MM & Shrapnel listen to us gamers and they try to fix what those of us mention.

just some ideas mac

capnq · #4 March 12th, 2002, 09:04 PM

Richard has said that the reason you don't see Shrapnel's games in stores like Babbage's is that they've never found a distributor whose terms were fair.

Rlaney · #5 March 15th, 2002, 11:59 AM

I used to buy games based on the picture on the box. Got some great games that way but also got burned a fair amount of times. With age most of us learn to be more frugal with our spending money, either through the painful process of getting burned or just sheer necessity. Nobody is accusin EvilKnight of knockin the game, and he's right. The graphics will scare off some players but I think the more seasoned players among us have learned to look beyond the surface for a deeper...something. Be interesting to know how long people who like SEIV have been playing games. I think the wisdom would come more with experience than with age. BTW... thanks for remindin me about x-com and master of magic. Now I gotta dig out the old 3.5's and load them up again.

Nebraskan · #6 March 15th, 2002, 04:07 PM

Rlaney, I love SE4 and have been playing Space Empires since SE2 was available. I started playing computer games in 1976, a game called Planet Miners for the TRS-80. Games have come a long way since then. The reason I stick with Space Empires is the constant support of the game by MM. With most big publisher games support ends as soon as the team moves on to the next game, not so with MM.

mac5732 · #7 March 15th, 2002, 06:35 PM

check out the "How Old are You" thread, this gives a lot of info on some of our players and tells you how long a good portion have been playing.

I started in 1960 with board war games all the way up until now. including over the years, the old ataris, commodores, apple in regardst to wargames.

just some ideas mac