Grossly, insanely different PD strengths

[Morkilus]

Look, it's Monkey PD!

[RedWurm]

I'm starting to get the impression that the monkey PD isn't fantastic. While it would be lovely if all the races had the option of employing as broad a range of strategies as possible, unless someone can be bothered to write a mod that makes every nation completely identical, it's not going to happen. For example, I had to stop relying on my flying units when playing as Ulm because I didn't have any.

To be fair, I don't like playing the monkey nations much. I like missile troops, but prefer ones that don't die messily at the first sign of enemy missile fire, direct sunlight or harsh language. Or, apparently, tennis balls (I seem to have missed that particular evocation spell, is it a national one?). I don't play them because they don't suit my style of play (a masterful combination of irrational unit choices, a short attention span and, by necessity, good defense), but I suppose I may be a little biased as well.

[HJFudge]

Morkilus wins the thread.

[Chris_Byler]

Look, if Lord_Bob (or anyone else for that matter) wants to make a PD Rebalance mod, and claim that it improves overall game balance, then we'd have something concrete to discuss; and if the player community agreed that more equal PD strengths improved the game overall, it'd stand a decent chance of being incorporated into CB or even a future patch.

But as long as there is nothing but complaint with no attempt to fix the situation (for a moddable problem), there's really not much to discuss.

[Sir_Dr_D]

Morkilus , I think that your monkey PD is overly powerfull. It looks like it has a high awe ability, and no one will be able to strike it.

[Lord_Bob]

There isn't much point in making a mod, if people won't use it.

Let's see if I can explain this to you, Chris.

A.I find a problem and tell people.
B.They agree it's a problem that needs a solution.
C.I THEN spend the large amount of time to make a mod.
D.Since there is agreement about the problem, people then use the mod I made. So I have not wasted my time.

Following, Chris?

Have you spent large amounts of time on projects that nobody uses, Chris? Judging from your attitude, I have to believe that's the case, Chris.

[Edi]

Lord_Bob said:
There isn't much point in making a mod, if people won't use it.

Let's see if I can explain this to you, Chris.

A.I find a problem and tell people.
B.They agree it's a problem that needs a solution.
C.I THEN spend the large amount of time to make a mod.
D.Since there is agreement about the problem, people then use the mod I made. So I have not wasted my time.

Following, Chris?

Have you spent large amounts of time on projects that nobody uses, Chris? Judging from your attitude, I have to believe that's the case, Chris.

You can cut the condescending tone right now. Since judging by the tone of the replies I got you apparently cannot understand a clear, plain text warning sent by PM, I will now warn you in public that you will either stop trolling or you will be reap the consequences. That's two warnings now, just so it's clear to everyone.

I've also been given to understand by another mod that you feel like you are being persecuted and that we are out to get you so that you can be "deleted". I was also given to understand that you had indicated a willingness to try to force things to that point. If that's indeed your tack here, it is going to become a self-fulfilling prophecy, since this community has absolutely no use at all for people who troll and disrupt the forums on purpose. We do NOT want to ban people, but we will if we have to, though that is always an administrative decision, not one made by mere moderators.

This topic is looking more and more like it's going to be just people beating on a dead horse, and if it does come to that, it's going to be locked. I'm not going to shut this thread down yet, though. I hope the discussion will go forward in a more productive vein.

[Lord_Bob]

I've also been given to understand by another mod that you feel like you are being persecuted and that we are out to get you so that you can be "deleted". I was also given to understand that you had indicated a willingness to try to force things to that point. If that's indeed your tack here, it is going to become a self-fulfilling prophecy, since this community has absolutely no use at all for people who troll and disrupt the forums on purpose. We do NOT want to ban people, but we will if we have to, though that is always an administrative decision, not one made by mere moderators.

Since you have access to what I wrote, why don't you quote it? I give you full permission. I think that would make my "persecution complex" quite clear to everyone. So go ahead.

Specifically, the fact that Jazzepi thought it was okay to tell me to "Die in a river" for no reason at all. He knew you would be okay with this, because, you are, aren't you?

Oh, and Chris_Byler was being deliberately rude to. You just have 100% tolerance for certain people who get to run around and get in everyone elses face. That's the way most message boards are run, so I don't expect any better from you.

[Shuma]

Lord_Bob said:

A.I find a problem and tell people.
B.They agree it's a problem that needs a solution.
C.I THEN spend the large amount of time to make a mod.
D.Since there is agreement about the problem, people then use the mod I made. So I have not wasted my time.

Step B here clearly has not happened.

[llamabeast]

I think that was his point. That's why he has to keep on telling us until we agree.