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November 23rd, 2007, 10:13 AM
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Re: No Kalevala references in Dom3?
Um, Burnsaber, KO is the content guy, JK does the coding. And no, Dom3 does not have Kalevala in it, unfortunately. Kristoffer has not had time to put it in and I understand there were some issues about needing to research it first, more indepth than the stuff already in, which he has studied previously.
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November 23rd, 2007, 10:49 AM
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Re: No Kalevala references in Dom3?
We should make mods!
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November 23rd, 2007, 11:54 AM
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Re: No Kalevala references in Dom3?
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Um, Burnsaber, KO is the content guy, JK does the coding. And no, Dom3 does not have Kalevala in it, unfortunately. Kristoffer has not had time to put it in and I understand there were some issues about needing to research it first, more indepth than the stuff already in, which he has studied previously.
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Durr.. How could I get something so basic mixed up? Kalevala might not lent itself to a nation (at least not one that wouldn't be too much alike to Vanheim/Midgård).
Väinämöinen would make for a kick-*** rainbow pretender. Pohjan Akka would most likely be a crone who can transform into a giant harpy.
It's a shame that item modding is limited. Sampo would make for a awesome artifact (gives money and lots of supplies and increases dominion)..
Damn, I'd better not get too excited here. I don't have time for another modding project currently.
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November 23rd, 2007, 01:51 PM
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Re: No Kalevala references in Dom3?
I used Väinämöinen as my password in an MP game once. Imagine typing that in correctly every time you log in.
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November 23rd, 2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: No Kalevala references in Dom3?
Kalevala, that name is very similar to the Estonian "Kalevipoeg". Are they related some how?
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November 23rd, 2007, 04:19 PM
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Re: No Kalevala references in Dom3?
Yes, Kalevipoeg and Kalevala are related.
As for no Welsh, arthurian legends are welsh and Man fits this role. For Scotland, Ireland is very near that (Scathach, unique hero of Eriu, was an Scot in the Book of the Red Branch).
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November 24th, 2007, 08:25 AM
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Re: No Kalevala references in Dom3?
Man, Tir, Eriu, Fomoria and Marverni pretty much sort out the Celtic background/mythology for the British Isles between them (okay, Marverni is a little more Gaul than Gael I guess). The Anglo-Saxon bits are dealt with by the Skandic nations, more or less.
I'd definitely be interested in seeing Kalevala (about which I know nothing) and even the Eastern European/Russian mythologies in Dom3.
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November 24th, 2007, 08:39 AM
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Re: No Kalevala references in Dom3?
Kalevala is hard to transform into a nation. It has a bunch of stories, but they tell of outstanding heroes, not about wars. Old mighty wizard, young foolish wizard, the great smith, the cursed anti-hero, the evil shapechanging crone of the northern Pohjola, etc.
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November 25th, 2007, 03:18 PM
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Re: No Kalevala references in Dom3?
Example mod looks good to me but I wouldn't give fay horses to Hakkapeliittas tho. I would like to keep recruitables as mundane as possible.
I was thinking of making also 2 spells which summon hiisis. Possibly nature-death spells. One which summons multitude of small hiisis (goblins) like Burnsaber said, and other one which summons bigger ones, more like jotuns or trolls. Atleast thats what springs to my mind when Im thinking about landmarks like Hiidenkivi, Hiidenkirnu and Hiidenkiuas which were considered to be work of hiisi.
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November 25th, 2007, 06:00 PM
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Re: No Kalevala references in Dom3?
It probably wouldn't be that big of a chance to change their mounts into normal horses. I'm afraid it's hard to balance them properly, though - they are essentially light cavalry, and light cavalry sucks, and I can't make them knights because they weren't. I'm trying to make a unit that can compete with Centaur Warriors or the EA non-sacred mounted Vanir units, except that it can't. It's not sacred, it doesn't berserk or have glamour, and at least the Centaurs are cheaper. The Mounted Hirdmen might be 55 gp or so - 15 gp isn't nearly enough for such a huge difference in power.
Hiisi is way different from Tapio. Both the race and the king are called Hiisi, and they have nothing to do with the forest apart from living in the wilderness and avoiding cultivated ground.
If I were to implement them, Hiisi would be Vaettir for the small ones and either Jotuns or Trolls for the bigger ones. There's a story in Kalevala about hunting down the "hiien hirvi", the hiisi's great elk (moose)... and both Vaetti and Trolls use mooses in warfare. I probably won't make them recruitable, but that's one thought.
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