Cause of scale-loss bug found!

[Tuidjy]

IndyPendant, this is, as far as I am concerned, the most important post in this
forum in the last year. If I have to point out to the most annoying bug, this
is it. And now there is a chance it gets fixed.

I suggest the next patch contains a mercenary sage named IndyPendant, with at
least 20 research, and bad event cancellation. :-)

[quantum_mechani]

While IndyPendant's observation is very keen and may prove useful, I'm quite sure I've gotten the bug in places no #poptype was specified, at least for water nations.

[Daynarr]

Still, it shows the connection between pop types and this bug. Very very important find. I was hunting the cause of this bug since Dom2 beta. Never really managed to reproduce it.

Damn good job IndyPendant.

[Edi]

quantum_mechani said:
While IndyPendant's observation is very keen and may prove useful, I'm quite sure I've gotten the bug in places no #poptype was specified, at least for water nations.

If it's linked to poptypes, it could be linked to certain specific poptypes more than others and if the underlying poptype is a problematic one, it could cause the problem. So, as Daynarr said, this is a very important thing. It's the first concrete clue since Strages Sanctus managed to reproduce the bug on a specific map in a specific province and a damn sight more informative and general than that one too.

[QXel]

I am wandering around this forum since at least one year and heard full of angry comments against this bug.
Personnaly, I never experiment it (or more probably, I never paid attention to it because I'm playing for fun and never look at the scales except at some very specific moments, like cold temperature when attacking C'Tis ... ).

But nontheless, I have to applause IndyPendant for his finding.

I fully agree with Tuidjy : the next patch should include an hommage to this Great Man (not even a God !!! Damn' !).

It has to be said.

Now, back to work

[Edratman]

I have a single data point. A couple of weeks ago I tried a map edit with #poptype 30 in my starting province and did not have the problem. I also placed a #knownfeature in the starting province and a buffed pretender. Nation - MA Tien Chin.

This was on a approx. 210 province map generated using random map maker. Approximate settings were height 3000, width 2000, 210 provinces, water 12%, mountain 50%, rugged 50%, river 700. (Values are pretty close, all my random maps are made with approx. same settings.)

May be data, may be noise. Good luck.

[Torin]

The point of #poptype is to search wich poptypes generate the problem. it´s not the command itself guilty for the bug but certain poptypes (domsuckers) according to what IndyPendant said.

[Johan K]

Most interesting. I'll take a look at it and see if it works the same for me. Thanks!