The mysteries of multiple shapes modded monsters

[Edi]

Interesting. I'll distill this into a proper shortlist entry later.

Monster 602 has certain attributes that only appear on pretenders, namely pathcost and startdom. You probably need to get rid of both attributes to remove it from the pretender list. If the first shape of a shapechanged unit has god attributes, then so does the second one, which is hwy it probably appears in the pretender list.

Shapechanging creatures have a number of potential issues when made pretenders. One of those for example is the cost mismatch bug, where choosing the shapechanging pretender means that the point cost is calculated on the basis of the other shape that is not shown (which is why some gods did not work earlier as intended, e.g. the Dracolich, see early shortlist entries).

[Twan]

Exact, I had copied startdom too on the second unit, making him pretender.

But in fact, it's still strange, in the part of Greyhawk mod I'm writing I have two pretenders with other shapes.

The first, the prismatic mage has a cycle of 5 secondshapes but none of these units show up as pretenders choices (even if they all had patchcost and startdom cut-pasted with other base stats of the mage).

The second, obad hai, uses shapechange, and if I give pathcost or startdom to one his shapes, this last unit is available as a pretender.

There are really strange things with pretenders with multiple shapes.

[Sombre]

Edit: My bad, I misunderstood.

So are you using #restrictedgod at all?

[Twan]

In the version released just after Edi made me realise why the halfling form was pretender, I use restrictedgod to be sure the shapes other than the first don't appear as pretenders choices, but the two pretenders (prismatic mage and obad-hai are not restricted).

In the version before I add restrictedgod the shape 2 of Obad-hai appeared as pretender, but not the many shapes of prismatic mage out of the first (even with #patchcost and #startdom on them).

ps : the secondshapes of prismatic mage and the halfling form of obad-hai appear as pretenders if a game with EA arcocephale is started with Greyhawk mod (as I've used restrictedgod 1).