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Also note that Astral Fire (S3,F1) and Nether Darts(S1,D1) are some of the best combat spells in the game, as there is nothing that can resist them(aside from high MR).
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will penetration items help with nether darts?
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Nether darts is actually fairly counterable due to being a missile effect, but it's still an amazing spell, as is, say, flaming arrows. I'm pretty sure astral fires is countered by FR, but I'm not 100% on that.
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Old December 6th, 2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: astral combat spells

Anecdotally, I've also found astral fires to be not as uber as you might think due to the relatively low damage output as compared to other evo spells. Considering how often you're fighting lower protection guys falling foo, magma eruption, etc. often wipe out big swaths of dudes and inflict reasonable damage against the moderately heavier ones while astral fires usually takes a couple of hits to kill anybody with more than 10 hp. Still, definitely has a niche though I didn't realize FR countered it.
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I'm pretty sure that FR doesn't counter Astral Fires. Like Banefire, its not actual "fire".

The second tier Evocations are perfect when your opponent starts tossing in his mechanical men armies or has other immunities. A 50% Fire Resist with decent armor is basically like being immune to Falling Fires, but Astral Fires will keep doing some damage.
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Astral Fire does not do fire damage (the tags are Armor Negating, Magic Resistance Negates and Works Underwater).
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Oooo, I had forgotten to mention how it works underwater. In the sumo wrestle that is underwater combat, tossing down real evocations is awesome.
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Default Re: astral combat spells

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Also note that Astral Fire (S3,F1) and Nether Darts(S1,D1) are some of the best combat spells in the game, as there is nothing that can resist them(aside from high MR).
High MR isn't that useful against nether darts and nether bolts as it only protects from the feebelminding, at least that is how it works according to the manual.
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