Elli (Started)

[Aethyr]

I don't mind sharing:

1) Aethyr
2) Sauromatia
3) 73
4) OK

While I agree with many of Indy's points: starting very close (relatively) to another player presents some challenges.

However, I think that thing that he's not giving enough credit to is diplomacy. When he chose to attack there wre several indy (no pun intended) provinces to be had. Additionally, especitally since he got the jump on me, I was willing to offer terms that were quite favorable. Instead, he decided that it was more beneficial to his cause if he eliminated me sooner rather than alter. I'm not faulting him; in his position I may have made the same choice. BTW Indy, I still have not conceeded that you are strong enough to break me.

Don't get me wrong, I'd MUCH rather have 10-12 or so provinces to work in before an early encounter, but I also enjoy the dimensions that an early encounter and diplomacy bring to the game. Hope this helps.

[IndyPendant]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not emotionally upset or anything. And simply starting near another player isn't really the issue. It's that I was only three provinces away from *two* other players, both of whom were placed in the only direction I could expand in--all on top of being handed a rather weak starting province.

It's like joining a wrestling match, then discovering I've been hobbled and had one arm tied behind my back--and no one else has. At least I've got a *very* good excuse if I don't win. ; )

And you're right, Aethyr, diplomacy was an option--but not a viable one, in my opinion. With Atlantis expanding around me from the northeast, and you due east of me, I literally had *nowhere* to go. All you would have had to do was take the provinces bordering your capital, and I would be cut off from the continent, with only around 7 or so provinces to my name. And I...highly doubted...you would be willing to cede one of those province to me. ; ) Since a war between us seemed all-but inevitable...I decided to initiate it under the most favourable terms I could.

One thing though, Aethyr: if I shouldn't have revealed your capital loc, I apologize. Maybe I'm being way overconfident, but I've already begun considering it mine. ; ) (I hope I don't look back on this and wince in embarrassment, in a few turns!) Didn't mean to exclude you when I apologized to Sensori, no intention of offending, and so forth...

[Aethyr]

IndyPendant said:
One thing though, Aethyr: if I shouldn't have revealed your capital loc, I apologize. Maybe I'm being way overconfident, but I've already begun considering it mine. ; ) (I hope I don't look back on this and wince in embarrassment, in a few turns!) Didn't mean to exclude you when I apologized to Sensori, no intention of offending, and so forth...

Do not worry. The blooddrinkers of Sauromatia wish all to know the place from whence their DOOM comes! We are glad that you consider our capitol already yours, please do come in. We have a feast that has been prepared especially for you.

[Aethyr]

The Witchkings of Sauromatia thank the Formor for generously lending us their land; you shall be repaid beyond imagining. We require no assistance against the birdlings, but we invite you to join us in picking their bones clean.

To the Alantians: you also may partake of this conquest; you will find us most generous in friendship and in the sharing of the spoils.

You will find us completely without mercy in war.

To the cowards of Caelum we say only this: We are coming for you.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

To all parties, I wish to say that the Fomorians are an honorable peoples. And we will honorably wage war soon.

We have reached the limits of our empire. Someday soon we will send either Sauromatia, Caelum, or Arcosephale a messenger informing you of war. We have not yet decided whom, and will listen to envoys, although our own interests will be the greatest priority. We expect both parties to abide by the terms of our non-agression agreement.

For example, if I send a declaration on turn six, the message shall be recieved in-game on turn seven. Hostilities shall not occur until turn ten. If they fight honorably, I shall show quarter if asked for, and fight honorably myself.

If, on the other hand, the other party attacks the turn they recieve the declaration, then I shall show the fools the true power of disease.

[IndyPendant]

Coming for me? You have only one province left--and one that apparently Fomoria 'lent' you. Soon you will lose them.

Still, it will be interesting to see what you intend to do...

[Aethyr]

IndyPendant said:
Coming for me? You have only one province left--and one that apparently Fomoria 'lent' you. Soon you will lose them.

Still, it will be interesting to see what you intend to do...

Why, the unexpected of course.