US Sniper rifle???

[Deputy]

Mobhack said:

Nope, they are wargames.

Now, I have worked on computer-based train drivers simulators - for the London Underground (Northern Line I think it was), Hong Kong Lantau line etc. These happen to have a real drivers cab, with circuit breakers that can be removed and so on, with a CGI view of the track. They ran in real-time, and have a physics model behind them, for brake dynamics and so forth. The trainers can script or inject real mishaps, and score the driver on the responses.

I have run a section and a platoon in the field in the TA, and have been attached to Co HQ as an officer cadet to learn the ropes. This game has nothing to do with the real-world activity of running any sort of military formation, unlike the train driver simulator, which is used to train real drivers in their real-world tasks. Like real flight simulators are used to teach piloting procedures, or the "pro" version of Steel beasts is used by some militaries.

The various real-time squad level games are still simply that - they do not teach any sort of useful procedures, and are really only an exercise in "buttonology". A game of paintball will teach you more real fieldcraft than any "squad level" press-F8 to throw the grenade stuff.

Civilian wargames have a role in teaching interested civilians something about tactics in general. They are used as such by some militaries, to teach the general concept of tactics in say officer training schools. But real military-grade simulations will concentrate on what is to the casual civilian "boring" stuff, like proper voice radio procedures, formulation of orders to that militaries standards, and so on. These military simulations can be done with telephones and radios in barracks, or out in the field as exercises, with or without real troops.

Cheers
Andy

Just to veer off for a second...but why can't I change the start date for US snipers in the OOB editor? It stays at 1-30 no matter if I hit F12 or save with the checkmark. When I change it and it LOOKS like it was changed successfully, I go back in and it's back to 1-30
I was trying to change it to Feb 1943.

[Mobhack]

Just to veer off for a second...but why can't I change the start date for US snipers in the OOB editor? It stays at 1-30 no matter if I hit F12 or save with the checkmark. When I change it and it LOOKS like it was changed successfully, I go back in and it's back to 1-30
I was trying to change it to Feb 1943.

You have apparently saved the current record's changes to the copy of the OOB currently held in RAM memory.

Did you also remember to save your edited OOB to disk, using the save button on the load/save tab, or File/Save Current file menu item?.

Edits made to the local RAM copy will not be finalised until you overwrite the actual OOB file on disk.

Andy

[Deputy]

Mobhack said:

You have apparently saved the current record's changes to the copy of the OOB currently held in RAM memory.

Did you also remember to save your edited OOB to disk, using the save button on the load/save tab, or File/Save Current file menu item?.

Edits made to the local RAM copy will not be finalised until you overwrite the actual OOB file on disk.

Andy

Hi Andy,
Okay....got it now. Thanks!!!

Dep

[PatG]

Deputy said:<snippage>

Just to veer off for a second...but why can't I change the start date for US snipers in the OOB editor? It stays at 1-30 no matter if I hit F12 or save with the checkmark. When I change it and it LOOKS like it was changed successfully, I go back in and it's back to 1-30
I was trying to change it to Feb 1943.

F12/check only commits your changes to the OOB in memory, you have to save the OOB in memory to disk for the change to stick. Note that you must commit all changes on one weapon, unit or formation page before moving to another or all changes on that page will be lost.

The process:
Open the OOB
Find your sniper
Change to 2 43
Commit changes F12 or Checkmark
Click Load/Save tab
Click Save to overwrite the existing OOB on disk or Save As to put into the custom folder. I would suggest you put any changed OOBs into a custom folder so you don't break PBEM compatibility. You can restore OOBs using the OOB management tool.
Click Exit
Re-open Mobhack, check the dates and you should be good.

[Deputy]

PatG said:

F12/check only commits your changes to the OOB in memory, you have to save the OOB in memory to disk for the change to stick. Note that you must commit all changes on one weapon, unit or formation page before moving to another or all changes on that page will be lost.

The process:
Open the OOB
Find your sniper
Change to 2 43
Commit changes F12 or Checkmark
Click Load/Save tab
Click Save to overwrite the existing OOB on disk or Save As to put into the custom folder. I would suggest you put any changed OOBs into a custom folder so you don't break PBEM compatibility. You can restore OOBs using the OOB management tool.
Click Exit
Re-open Mobhack, check the dates and you should be good.

Thanks Pat! I got it working.