Inconsistant outcome

[TruePurple]

Damn I already explained it all, fine I'll try again.

I'm fighting a weaker enemy, I've destroyed many of their units and most or all of them are fleeing.

Suddenly some weaker morale units will run. They will run despite all your enemy running and you outnumber/outpower the enemy. Especially if that group suffered much in losses during the battle.

Then it becomes about the enemy reaching the end of the screen or being destroyed before my insane fleeing troops reach the end of the screen. If I win the battle those fleeing nonmerc units will have vanished, even though I control provinces around the area I won.

Do you understand now? If not you'll need to be more specific in what confuses you.

[thejeff]

Because morale checks are based on what has happened to that squad, not on the larger state of the battle.

Once a squad has taken enough damage, they'll start making morale checks every turn. When they fail one, they'll retreat.

If they all make it off the field before the enemy does, you lose.
That all seems straightforward, if a little strange

I've never seen the disappearing troops though. They'll certainly be detached from their commanders and scattered, but I've never noticed losing them. Do commanders disappear?

[TruePurple]

I've not had issues with the commanders fleeing, especially and win too.

If I lose the battle fleeing nonmerc units appear in nearby provinces. Its only if I win that they disappear altogether.

Also units will sometimes wait till all the enemy is fleeing and I'm clearly winning before they flee. Actually very often thats exactly when they start fleeing. Which makes no sense.

Noone else is troubled by either aspects of this problem?

[VedalkenBear]

Well, does this happen with a variety of nations, or just a few? Do you use many small squads, or few large squads? Does this happen with high-morale troops in addition to low-morale troops?

I would think that more detail would be useful.

[PyroStock]

I've never had fleeing units disappear. Win or lose, they are either in the province or my nearby provinces.

I have had battle reports show losses that did not take place in the battle I watched, but that's rare. In SP the game always goes by the report.

[Torin]

could you attach the turn file TP?

[TruePurple]

I don't have one, this is just something I've experienced a few times and figured I'd add it to the thread.

I could maybe keep a eye out for one next time. But between the forced autosave bit and alt tab/minimizing while the game is running being a pain in the ***..

Anyone ever have units retreat on them the moment all of the enemy decides to flee or even slightly latter?

[Torin]

yes, they dont want to get killed and dont care for your kingdom (maybe).

but dissappearing routed units i never happened to have (or didnt notice).

[VedalkenBear]

TP: I _have_ had units retreat after, ostensibly, all of the opponent's units are retreating. Generally, this will happen when a few archers on the other side aren't _really_ routing, and they cause a morale check on my unit(s) which fail.