How prevalent is RMG Wierdness?

Cor2 · #1 December 24th, 2007, 03:51 PM

Mine has refused to create new maps for months now. I go through the waiting process and I get the exact same map image I created just before this probelm started with a diffrent corruped map file, its unplayable. Never bothered to complain because there are so many user created maps around that are good. Its just weird.

Endoperez · #2 December 24th, 2007, 04:25 PM

I haven't heard of this before, and couldn't reproduce it on my system. How big maps are you generating, and with how many provinces? I did my tests with very small maps (400x200 pixels instead of 1400x1200), but I always got different maps and didn't notice any grabled graphics.

Cor2 · #3 December 24th, 2007, 11:30 PM

Any size map. I have tried from 50- 400 provinces. pixel ranges from 600x600 to 1200x1200 rez. Its been a while since I tried, not in 3.08 or 3.10. Maybe fixed in one of those patches. It started shortaly after i got the game, I might have generated a dozen ma0ps or so.

I am just not really intrested in trouble shooting, as i dont use that feature any more. I might try again later see if the problem is still there when I get some time.

Edratman · #4 December 26th, 2007, 09:13 AM

I have had the same problem using the RMG. What I found that resolves the problem is to save the game, exit to desktop and start the game again. The map appears corrected (and substantially different than originally viewed). No other problems appear after performing these actions.

The problem only occurs when I start a game on a random map from the main menu, not when I generate a map using the random map maker and then use that map for a game. It also occurs on all 3 map size choices for me.

I haven't used start a game on a random map in quite a while. IIRC it did not occur 100% of the time, but I am not aware that I noticed any pattern to the occurance of the problem either.

lch · #5 December 26th, 2007, 09:46 AM

As has been stated before by llamabeast and Foodstamp, there seems to be some weird caching system which as a result does not show/generate the new map image (*.rgb/*.tga) in the game if there has already been generated one with the same name. The map file (*.map) with the neighbors and terrain flags, however, does get overwritten/updated, and thus it results in seemingly "wrong" generated maps, where forest provinces are marked as being underwater etc., just because the map image does not belong to the *.map file. I have seen this in some other games I participated in.

In order to make a meaningful bug report: State your operating system and game version (patch number). Describe in detail the steps as to how this bug can be reproduced. Let others check and verify your description. Let the devs fix it.

As a workaround, the previously mentioned "use a different name every time", "delete the generated map in the game before trying again" and "restart the game between generating" might be worth trying out.

Velusion · #6 December 26th, 2007, 04:18 PM

Sometimes the RMG will screw up - however it should be obvious when this happens (most of the map is water).

I would never start a new game with a random map that wasn't pre-generated and looked over for big errors.

That said the RMG is very useful to generate lots of different maps - from which you pick and choose the best.

sansanjuan · #7 December 29th, 2007, 12:51 AM

I have also encountered similar RMG water/land weirdness intermittently. I entered a ticket (TICKET #: 1982) but the staff had no solution. Seems to occur more often if I generate the RMG with the screen minimized though that it occurs either way. Once I exit/saved and reloaded and the map was "fixed" though that does not work all the time. Happens to about 1 map out of 5 or so.
-Dave

Edit: Note Oceania on land and the funky centroid flag placements