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Old December 29th, 2007, 02:54 AM
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The *heims' glamour cavalry should be ethereal. They're too underpowered right now!
Please. No more requests for Heims buffing. They are badass troops and quite well-balanced as is.
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Where does the prot 20 come from? The legends I've read about tell that to kill a vampire, you have to put a wooden stick through their heart, and that'd be impossible if they had that high protection.

I really liked the idea of giving vampires a home province oustide of which they would have to drain life to survive, but I don't think it would work, mechanically. If you summoned vampires anywhere but you capital, the immortality would transform them to a province where they'd hurt until they died again, to again reborn in the capital, etc etc. Also, trying to move the vampires out of the capital would be really annoying, as some would have full hp, some under 5, and many would die before you reached a battle.
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I believe that Vampires should be not be ethereal if anything, they should just have something like 10 natural protect and more hp, cause their evil powerful undead, but once you get past that, all Vampires are in Dom 3 are immortal Thralls of the Vampire lords, Peasants and Farmers giving immortality, They shouldn't be ethereal but the Spell Blood Rite should give a hell of a lot more vampires.
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Something should change with vampires... I like the mistform trait idea. Currently ghosts are more powerful.
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Ahh, but ghosts die and don't come back, it's difficult to actually kill vampires.
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Default Re: Why isn\'t X ethereal?

Unless the player doesn't have a really strong dominion and is using their flying well by attacking more than just provinces next to his own.
And once you hit the enemy once or twice, it gets very hard to use vampires out of your own territory - although I do love the little guys(particularly with LA Ulm).
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Default Re: Why isn\'t X ethereal?

I think you can cite a myth to support just about anything regarding vampires. It depends which myths we're following and how we apply them in the game.

For example: Regarding prot 20 vs the myth of the stake in the heart - most of the time the staking is supposed to be done to a prone vampire body, one sleeping or who has already been incapacitated. Therefore a critical hit, perhaps against an unconscious foe. Therefore one that bypasses protection.

I think most of us agree that the vampire thrall summon is underpowered. You can fix this by making it cheaper, making it easier to cast, making it summon more vamps or by improving the vamps in some way. I personally think vampire thralls should be better, because vampires (even thralls)are generally regarded as dangerous, strong and resilient. They aren't in the game. They lose to light infantry, pretty much. So natural prot increase would help in that regard.
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