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Old January 23rd, 2008, 10:41 PM

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Never mind the banners of flayed men, move along, nothing to see here.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 05:39 PM
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Them undeads have crunchy yummy bones to chew on! - Anonymous Sauromantian soldier

And historically ends of sieges were not exactly bloodless events as armies usually killed lots of civilians as well as remainders of defending armies. There were no geneva conventions to mess will honest slaughering of your foes.

Actually I would like to have options of treating civilians and or prisoners of war as multichoise after taking province/castle.

Doesn't really feel like proper evil pretender god if you cant have this:

Mongol General: Hao! Dai ye! We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.
Mongol General: That is good! That is good.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 05:49 PM

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Do you know any wars that made use of geneva conventions? I think that is just a dead and worthless thing because no one respects it.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 06:07 PM
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The Geneva Convention is just a set of rules, nations and individuals can choose to obey them or not. However, its existence provides accountability, i.e. if you do bad things you will be tried for war crimes when we catch you. So in that sense all wars make use of the Geneva Convention. But yes, there's always someone that does something we consider reprehensible even in the context of a war.

I think cleveland's idea of making all forts into the Alamo sounds like it would increase strategic options. But I don't expect anything to change and the way things are now isn't bad.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 06:12 PM

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That means completely nothing. The only way to judge anyone for breaking Convention is to win war against him. So it changes nothing - previously if you won a war you killed/punished your opponent. Wars now are not less bloody - look at Africa, Kosovo, Iraq. It is just wishful thinking that Convention like that will change anything.
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The existence of laws don't deter all criminals, but they do deter some. The Geneva Convention might not stop an Iraqi dictator but it will stop an American one. So it's not useless. But this is off topic, so we don't have to agree.
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