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March 22nd, 2002, 08:10 PM
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Re: In Review: Best Fleet Strategy
Not that easy to do in multiplayer (strategic combat). Especially when I have speed advantage (3-engine escorts... how could one even think about such mutant !) and "max. distance" strategy.
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March 22nd, 2002, 08:15 PM
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Re: In Review: Best Fleet Strategy
quote: Originally posted by LGM:
Ships with only one weapon cannot do much to repel a Ramming attacker. A fleet of uber-escorts can ram the Destroyer into oblivion with about two or three rams.
Rock, paper, scissors.
The search for an "uber-weapon" is snipe hunt. Every weapon has it's advantages and disadvantages. A ship design that will kick butt against one type, will fail miserably against another.
No weapon or strategy is perfect for every possible situation. You must be able to adapt, and improvise to be succecsful all the time. And even then, you can't all the time. Because there is always someone out there that can adapt a little better, and improvise a little faster than you can.
If there was truly only one answer to the question, then people wouldn't still be playing this game a year and a half later.
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March 22nd, 2002, 11:32 PM
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Re: In Review: Best Fleet Strategy
Exactly.
Well said....
I just clobbered an enemy in a PBEM game because I changed my strategy of ship building every 40 turns or so and used combined fleets. So the strenghts and weakness balanced out.
I personally believe their is only on strategy in this game. Production. Out produce your enemies and you will win. How you get there is the fun part. Winning is not as enjoyable 
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March 23rd, 2002, 12:04 AM
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Re: In Review: Best Fleet Strategy
Check this out:
On the first turn, dump your innitial research points into Military Science and projectile 2. The next turn, continue researching Combat Support and projectile at the same time. Once you have ECM, get your PD up to II or III. You should have DUC IV, ECM and PD III by 17-20 turns.
On the first turn, build two or three space stations with ship yards. Once you have ECM, start building prototype hulls. Set your orbital yards to emergency build. So if you have three yeards, you can get 10 prototype hulls in 4 turns. By this time, you should close to around 18 turns with all your tech up to where we want it, so upgrade to prototype to the full Version and then spend a few turns retrofitting. Spend this retrofitting time pumping out another 5-6 complete hulls.
Presto, in 20-25 turns you have your Navy Fleet Group ready to go! You could have it in 20 flat if you were willing to settling for lower tech equipment.
**** THIS IS FROM A SINGLE PLANET LOW-TECH START!!!!!!! *****
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March 23rd, 2002, 12:29 AM
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Re: In Review: Best Fleet Strategy
Face it GUTB, your strategy is one of the most easily countered strategies in existance. Most experienced players already build 3 space stations around their homeworld(s), so they could easily produce more ships (of a larger size) than you in the time that it takes for your fleet to be built and to reach them. And with only 1 point defense gun per ship, missile destroyers (or even frigates) would be able to overwhelm your escorts. And with such short ranged weapons, your ships will rarely get a chance to fire upon the missile ships (which would use the max range strategy). So much for that uber-defense level of your ships.
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March 23rd, 2002, 12:34 AM
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Re: In Review: Best Fleet Strategy
Also, how does your empire expand? Your strategy mentions nothing about colonizing other planets, let alone exploring and expanding beyond your home system. Meanwhile, the other empires are out happily expanding... and increasing their production and research base. So you may get a few early victories, but you're empire will be out-produced and out-researched in the long run.
(BTW, didn't Wile E. Coyote also call himself a 'super-genius'?)
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March 23rd, 2002, 04:23 AM
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Re: In Review: Best Fleet Strategy
quote: (BTW, didn't Wile E. Coyote also call himself a 'super-genius'?)
I believe he did. Interesting analogy there...
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