Forseti (Started)

[IndyPendant]

Heh. Let's review our history in detail, shall we?

1) I conquer Port Palatuk, an Indy-held province, somewhere around Turn 9 or 10.

2) You message me stating that it is yours because it is two provinces from your capital, and you would consider it 'fair' for me to 'return' it to you. (This, despite the fact that you did not even have an army neighbouring it!)

3) I refuse to return it, but happily offer an NAP. You refuse the NAP, requiring Port Palatuk and various assurances as conditions. I am not agressive, so I am willing to provide many of those assurances (not attacking provinces that are *actually* yours because you actually *own* them--an odd concept I know, not attacking the indy provinces on the far side of the river between us, allowing you freedom to attack our northern neighbour and continue expanding, and so forth). I am unwilling to give up Port Palatuk, and say so. Repeatedly.

4) While negotiating, you move a large army into your province neighbouring Port Palatuk, then message me essentially saying "I'm taking it. If you don't like it, we can be at war. But I am willing to give you 50 gold a turn for it, once things settle down."

5) I let you, and wait and see. 5-6 turns pass. No coin sent my way. Castle and temple (at least) are completed on Port Palatuk. Still no coins. And no messages either for at least 3 turns' time.

Shocker.

6) I attack. Get rebuffed. (Hardly a slaughter, I'll have you in a few turns.) Even now, I offer--in a much, much less conciliatary tone--to reopen negotiations if I'm paid what I was promised. Your public post in this thread is your response to me. ; )

I let the other players decide who was the aggressor, and who has negotiated in bad faith.

[Whollaborg]

Feeble words from a rotten empire,

How do you explain your five spies in my territory and three in my capitol puting up a revolt? The spies count for a big number of turns and commanders arranged only to attack our small nation.

The castle in the Port Palatuk was the condition of paying the 50 gold and you agreed to that - As you agreed to treaty to hand the province Port Palatuk to us.

The same turn our castle was finished your huge armies appeared to the borders with sappers neighbouring the finished castle ...and in the same month your spies started to pop up and still no response to our mails. Does all of Tien Chi think we men are as stupid as your eunuchs?
We didn't give you the 50 gold as we foresaw your immediate attack that happened before any gold could have reached Tien Chi coffers!

We prepared for a month - and as you saw our preparation was enough. Let's see if the eunuch has what it takes to overcome us. I, Zhukov roam the country and still have a couple of those things!

-Zhukov the Anticipated

[Cor2]

I am neutral on the TeinChi/Man conflict.

I would like to offer a call to arms against ULM!
On meeting we (Jotunheim) offered peaceful coexistance. Ulm replied that they needed "Lebensraum" and I was attacked by thier "god" ADOLF. I tell you all this is a sick nation that must be put down. So there for TO WAR!

I call all peace and freedom loving nations to divide Ulm before they build thier war machine!

There may be rewards for joining the crusade against Ulm (contact me for details).

[vfb]

Any nation with an excess of death gems, who wishes to trade for nature, water, or fire gems, or pearls, please contact the denizens of the Mictlan jungles by PM'ing vfb.

This offer does not mean other previous discussions about trading gem-related resources are off. We are still interested in those other trades.

It's just, well, diversity and all that "spice of life" we keep hearing about as we do our jungle dances and sky watchings.

Oh, and we've found a Hunter's Knife and a Stinger in the forest. Whoever dropped those, please contact us and we can return them for a very small finder's fee and miniscule transportation charges.

[danbo]

I hope all the civilized community wouldn't fall for pathetic Jotunheim propaganda. The situation is quite opposite actually, from the very start peaceful ulmish peasants are thwarting constant attacks of gigantic barbarians. But hopefully only one of our neighbours can join Jotunheim unholy crusade at the moment. And this neighbour is massing forces on my borders anyway

[BigandScary]

Whollaborg- Did you say you are conquering fishies. I conquer fishies, stay away from my fishies.

This all seems pretty fishy.

[Cor2]

BigandScary said:
Whollaborg- Did you say you are conquering fishies. I conquer fishies, stay away from my fishies.

This all seems pretty fishy.

Can you find the fish? It did go where I did go. (Its between the couch cushions?! Its in the chest of drawers!?)