Flame Weapons

[Endoperez]

In EvilDave's log, this line:

hitunit 2547 2029 dmg6 spec96 ba1

appeared twice after Sword of Swiftness, once after lance and four times after the Bird. The line:

2547 striking with weapon bless fire. att31 def15

which identifies the bless appears just after the hitunit lines, when it appears, AND the 'hitunit' line deals 6 points of damage (as bless fire) and has spec 96. I'd guess that spec 96 is "this weapon deals fire damage".

I have no idea why "bless fire" seems to appear AFTER the attack has been done, or why it doesn't appear every time, but I think the actual damage line from it appears once for every attack.


[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Bug.gif[/img]
However, Fire Bless cuts off multiple attacks! Sword of Switness deals its own damage
hitunit 2547 2029 dmg9 spec1 ba4 only once, but the bless damage twice
hitunit 2547 2029 dmg6 spec96 ba2
hitunit 2547 2029 dmg6 spec96 ba2;
similarly Stone Bird deals non-resistable damage once, and the fire damage four times:
hitunit 2547 2029 dmg9 spec134217728 ba4
hitunit 2547 2029 dmg6 spec96 ba1
hitunit 2547 2029 dmg6 spec96 ba1
hitunit 2547 2029 dmg6 spec96 ba2
hitunit 2547 2029 dmg6 spec96 ba1

This is something that SHOULD be tested. Might be easiest to do that with a modded weapon with silly number of attacks. Hmm...

Damage 10, armor-negating melee weapon with +15 att and no str added should work. Oh, and 10 attacks of course.
When this weapon is used against any fire-immune titan (Sphinx with Ring of Fire Resistance is good), if the Sphinx only gets ~10 points of damage, Fire Bless does take away consecutive attacks. If he takes ~100 damage, it's just a glitch in the log file.

I'm at work, so can't test it.

[triqui]

Ok, thankyou very much. I realized that something happened with my number 2) question though ^^

2) does flameweapons confer magic property to the weapon itself, or just the flame damage? I mean, i hit a ethereal unit with my flaming lance. Does the ethereal unit get a 75% chance to ignore the lance damage?

[Endoperez]

I didn't remember to test the flame weapons, and won't have a chance to do it today. I hope I won't just forget about it...

[Endoperez]

Okay, it's almost midnight but I just tested it.

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Bug.gif[/img] If a weapon has multiple attacks, and the unit using the weapon has been blessed via Fire 9, the weapon deals damage only once. :bug

Thus, if your Jotun Herse goes against a fire-immune unit with his Sword of Swiftness, he will only deal 9+str damage once, instead of twice.

[Omnirizon]

ok...

but what about the flaming hoofs? those still work? It is only with a single weapon that gets multiple attacks, the fire bonus will only apply to its first attack?

[Saulot]

It is only with a single weapon that gets multiple attacks, the fire bonus will only apply to its first attack?

No, I think what Endoperez is saying is that you won't get multiple attacks from your normal weapons (the ones that have more than one swing to them, like a sword of swiftness), but you will get the firebless attacks.

[Endoperez]

Exactly.

With hoof (1 attack), you get:
1 hoof
1 fire

With Sword of Swiftness (2 attacks), you get:
1 sword
2 fire

With Gloves of the Gladiator (4 attacks), you get:
1 gloves
4 fire