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		OK. I have so far followed Evilhomer's guide in building up an MA R'lyeh nation. I've done well in both the MP game I am playing in, and the test SP game I am testing with. I have reached the endgame in the SP game, and... I can't make an S9 mage to cast Wish. 
 
I finally have an S8 Starspawn, but I can't get him up any higher without empowering. And despite all my astral searching, my astral income is awful (like 5), so getting him up to 9 will take a long time. 
 
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		It's probably a bit late, but making a bunch of clams earlier would have helped with your astral pearl situation.  At Const-4 a W3 Starspawn can make a robe of the sea, then you can have a W2N1 slave mage making clams. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Can you summon Naiads, for the Nature/Water mages? I think the most common way to get lots of Astral, ESPECIALLY if you have easy access to Water (i.e. you are under water) and Nature (i.e. the Nat 0 underwater Kelp sites), is to make Clams. You know, Water/Nature items that generate astral pearls.  
 
Also, in single-player you can except to keep globals such as Stellar Focus up for long enough for them to pay back the amount of gems you put in them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		You should have gotten dimensional rod.  
 
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		Of course, if you don't have a good Astral income then a Wish caster isn't going to do that many castings. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Yes, my clam economy in the SP game was awful. I should have made a lot more, and earlier. I'll try not to make the same mistake in the MP game. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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