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February 26th, 2008, 06:23 AM
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Re: Build me an MA Ulm thug
It isn't as many gems as you think. MA Ulm has forge bonus 25% + hammers 25% = 50% off.
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February 26th, 2008, 06:26 AM
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Re: Build me an MA Ulm thug
You could build him a Pendant of Luck (if you're lucky to get Astral on a smith, or an Astral merc, or a lizard shaman) and a Girdle too. If you've got a N1 indy mage make him some birch boots too.
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February 26th, 2008, 06:34 AM
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Re: Build me an MA Ulm thug
Thanks for the advice! My smiths are hard at work now.
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February 26th, 2008, 06:39 AM
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Re: Build me an MA Ulm thug
Quote:
Dedas said:
It isn't as many gems as you think. MA Ulm has forge bonus 25% + hammers 25% = 50% off.
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't forge bonuses mulplicitive instead of additive? I.e. 1/4 and a 1/4 gets you 9/16?
I'm also going to say not to bother equiping black lords to be thugs. A successful thug needs multiple levels of defense, such as high defense, protection, glamour/mirror image, awe, and high HP. Don't despair, however, as few nations have truly wrothwhile recruitable units to make thugs out of. Instead, I'd suggest you pick a pretender with some death magic, summon some banelords, and outfit them with earth and fire equipment.
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February 26th, 2008, 06:53 AM
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Re: Build me an MA Ulm thug
Forge bonuses are additive.
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February 26th, 2008, 07:28 AM
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Re: Build me an MA Ulm thug
edi has spoken
/me see OmikronWarrior become microwarrior and retreat

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February 26th, 2008, 07:41 AM
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Re: Build me an MA Ulm thug
I don't think low hp human recruitables make /good/ thugs, but they do make fun/thematic thugs and they can work well, especially in SP.
I personally like to build some human thugs in SP because mythology and history is full of amazing individuals. So if one of my random commanders does well or gets a couple of stars of experience or something I usually thug him up. It's just a fun way to play.
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February 26th, 2008, 07:43 AM
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Re: Build me an MA Ulm thug
innate unit forge bonuses and hammer bonuses are additive. any other forge bonus (site, global), is then multiplicative.
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February 26th, 2008, 07:50 AM
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Re: Build me an MA Ulm thug
hmmmm... I am just waiting new patch since "iron angel" could be the best choice. But maybe it is limited to LA Ulm or just nothing but a cool name...
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February 26th, 2008, 08:15 AM
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Re: Build me an MA Ulm thug
Iron angel is limited to MA Ulm, if I read the teaser posts on the forums correctly.
Archaeolept, thanks. I thought the lot of them were additive, but I have never tested it too closely or with the big gem cost items which would most easily reveal these things.
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