First inkling that you’ve won/lost an MP Game?

[Ylvali]

Kristoffer O said:
> I play to have a good time, mostly. Winning is an unlikely bonus. Surviving to the endgame is fun.

I agree with Gregstrom, except I prefer to die before endgame.

I like local politics and petty wars. In a game I (or my pretender alter ego) would be surprised and annoyed if another nation expected me to attack some kind of mighty far away nation. My war is my fun. A good dominions game are several games in one. Some of these might culminate to a greater epic, but I don't mind a mosaic of politics and lesser goals.

But I believe I'm more of a roleplayer than a cometitive player. Not that I don't like competition, but I prefer it on a regional level, in a global setting so to speak.

That is my perspective too. The fun of MP is in the roleplaying. Building relations. Making sneaky little plans. posting funny stories at the forum. Etc. Etc.

I find that I am much more loyal to a game where I took my time to build a personality and roleplay my pretender, especially if other player are feeling the same way. Primea is a good example.

[Agema]

According to the game, whoever doesn't win, loses.

But some people may prefer to go away with the thought "I was second" because they were they were the last player to be defeated, or may even think "I allied with X for him to win therefore I was part of a team victory".

Not stopping large and dangerous opponents is also actually realistic: the rise of Nazi Germany; the Celts not uniting to resist Caesar until he'd already pacified most of Gaul; the crusaders sacking Constantinople with the Turks approaching the gates of Europe.

I think it's true that there's a sense people want to take down a bitter opponent. There's a sense of victory in overcoming a local opponent, even if you can't overwhelm the big guy who comes after.

[Gregstrom]

Or, in a nutshell, players are free to set their own limited victory conditions :-)

[Aezeal]

hmm once I know I'm not competing anymore I'm setting a new goal (which will always be: eliminating the one who made me not reach nr 1... to bad that USUALLY is the one who will be winning so that makes me just die faster (which is nice then I can start a new game without really abandoning the other.))