Hidden in Sand does not work properly

sector24 · #1 March 11th, 2008, 06:40 PM

Sounds like you may have cast the spell outside of a wasteland province.

EDIT: Damn, too slow on the trigger.

Zenzei · #2 March 11th, 2008, 06:42 PM

Aha! Indeed I am casting it non-wasteland province, teaches me to read spells more carefully before casting. Thanks for the quick clarification.

However, I'd like to still know if the king can get some magic ability.

Shovah32 · #3 March 11th, 2008, 07:16 PM

I don't think so. But the spell can also summon dust priests who do(death, fire, earth and holy iirc).

Endoperez · #4 March 11th, 2008, 07:49 PM

I think the chance of getting a Dust Priest is the same as the chance of getting an Unfrozen Mage with Hidden in Snow: 75% for the first, 25% for the second, Magic scale increases both.

Zenzei · #5 March 11th, 2008, 08:19 PM

I casted the spell two more times, this time in wasteland province, here's what I got.

Casting #1
dust king
F3E1D3H2 dust priest
50 dust warriors

Casting #2
dust king
F1E3D3H2 dust priest
37 dust warriors

I think those results are pretty good, a big stack of good units, a thuggable commander chassis and a high powered mage.

If the scales have an effect, I had luck 3 and magic 3.

sector24 · #6 March 11th, 2008, 08:26 PM

Better than 3 Iron Dragons?

Zenzei · #7 March 11th, 2008, 09:01 PM

My experience with iron dragons is limited, only used them once or twice in single player, but I haven't been impressed by them so far. They were mostly just very expensive meat shield and they sucked at trampling.

So yeah, I think Hidden in Sand is better than 3 iron dragons. Also, HiS is only sixth level spell so you can use it long before any iron dragons.

ologm · #8 March 12th, 2008, 03:40 PM

I got a Dust priest with two astral and no fire.

Endoperez · #9 March 12th, 2008, 03:52 PM

According to Edi, Dust Priests have

Fixed E1D2H2
Randoms
100% FES
50% F
50% D

but I think that's actually two 100% chances of FES, or magic scale can improve the results.

NTJedi · #10 March 12th, 2008, 04:19 PM

Hidden in Sand does have a high cost for the end result, but the real value comes with the dust priest with fire magic. The game has very few summoning commanders/mages which arrive with fire magic. So if you need access to fire magic then it could be worthwhile, but if you're looking for an army I would suggest living statues or mechanical men for a better deal.