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March 15th, 2008, 04:29 PM
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Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
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KraMax said:
narwan
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Panzerfaust - was not the regular weapon of the Soviet army, it was the trophy weapon which fighters of red army used in WW2.
RPG-1 - Not only has not been started in a batch production, it has been underfulfilled to a level of production i.e. it is the experimental weapon.
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Yes I know and if the soviet union had gone to war in that period these would have been used by it's troops.
Your argument that they didn't use them historically is moot since there was no actual major war the soviet union was involved in in that period and the game assumes that there is!
The same applies to many other OB's. The dutch OB for the 80's is full of stuff that was not part of the active armed forces but which was still kept in some warehouse. By your reasoning this equipment would not have been used (for reserve forces or to replace combat losses) had the warsawpact and NATO gone to war in the 80's.
I can assure you it would have, just like the captured panzerfausts and experimental RPG1's would have been used by the soviets in the late 40's if the soviet union and the western allies had gone to war then.
The game models not just what's on the active inventory of armies in specific historical period's but also what has been stockpiled and mothballed and COULD have been used had war broken out.
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I have understood you.
Whether means it, what if we were at war in 80th years with the western countries, we would have trophy TI, the ATGM-western manufacture, western tanks, etc.? 
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March 21st, 2008, 02:58 AM
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Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
We have change units.
change units:
units 169-171, 203 - change available from 2011.
To download it it is possible from here: www.pecypc.kz/kramax/obat011.obf
or
www.pecypc.kz/kramax/obat011.zip
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March 21st, 2008, 03:42 PM
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Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
KraMax
I'm having difficulty finding information that the 120mm Nona gun is issued with cluster munitions
The best I can find is something like this ......."capable of firing Rocket Assisted Projectiles (RAPs), 120mm HE-fragmentation, illuminating, smoke and incendiary mortar bombs including those designed for NATO's 120mm mortars."
......and none of those mentioned are cluster munitions.
If you could provide me with a source for this information I need it would be appreciated
Don
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March 21st, 2008, 04:11 PM
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Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
HRW submunitons report (A GLOBAL OVERVIEW OF
EXPLOSIVE SUBMUNITIONS, 2002, don't have link but have PDF in my archive, may send it) lists a 120mm cluster shell with 35 DPICM for Russian Federation, however it might be pretty faulty or listing just experimental and never fielded warheads lumped together with real ones.
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March 21st, 2008, 04:22 PM
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Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
OK, Thanks. I have that document now and I am digging deeper
Don
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