Mod: Ulm Reborn v.1.7b - Updated 14th June 2009

[Sombre]

Penitent numbers are down slightly due to the white priests not autospawning one a turn. Not a major factor, but does reduce the hordes somewhat. In order to make best use of them you need a bless that doesn't suit your other sacreds (like fire 9 or blood 9 or whatever), high dominion and a focus on spells that keep them alive, like arrow fend. They don't have very strong synergy with anything else UR is doing, so it's hard for them to be overpowered I think. They are nice for free though ;]

[llamabeast]

With an S9E9F4 bless (which I took in Marmoset) the Penitents are extremely effective, as are all the other sacreds. I was pretty pleased with that combo actually!

But yes, I agree that they're not overpowered against an enemy who focusses on tactics which are effective against them.

[Sombre]

Well the astral bless works on all sacreds, but isn't in itself a top flight bless. E9 does nothing for the penitent of course, though is great for other sacreds. So again, you don't quite have the synergy there which would make for an overpowered build. It's something I wanted to avoid, giving free sacreds which would benefit from the same bless as the elites.

F4 is pretty good for all sacreds though.

If you want a really big army of penitent you need high dom and that coupled with a major bless,.. well UR also likes order3 prod3,.. so something has to give.