Which nations most represent chaos or evil?

[Kristoffer O]

Not more than in a cannibalistic ands hedonistic sense.

Edit: dai bakemono are probably less so, being bound by honor. Shuten doji, o-bakemono and bakemono-sho are definitely hostile to men/man-eaters. Kappas are more capricious. Some like to drown humans and suck their entrails out, while others can be friendly.

[Herode]

Then they are not hostile, just tasters.

Since most nations are humans I think the nations directly hostile to humanity qualify as evil. Abysia, Mictlan, LA Ermor, Niefelheim, Lanka, Fomoria, Yomi, Shinuyama.

Hmmmm... How could Mictlan be hostile to humanity ? they are part of humanity.

[Kristoffer O]

Perhaps by taking slaves and sacrificing other humans to appease their god, but OTOH it might be their god that is always hostile to humanity and not the nation.

LA Mictlan are toads and not humans

[sector24]

I think MA C'tis gets an honorable mention for chaos/evil. Even though their dominion doesn't kill population in the game, I imagine the miasma as an extremely hazardous event from a peasant's point of view. Maybe not evil in the "I starve kittens" kind of way, but perhaps evil in the way R'lyeh is evil.

(It's the apostrophe in their name that makes them treat humans so poorly)

[Cheezeninja]

The only two nations I view as truly evil are LA Ermor and R'lyeh, if victorious both essentially mean the end of all life on the planet.

I'm not sure where I get the distinction, but I marked EA Abysia as evil but not Mictlan. I wouldn't call Mictlan good either, but it's a nation of mere humans trying to survive against all sorts of nasties whereas Abysia was created by the direct intervention of creatures commonly thought to be inherently evil, and is still ruled by their descendants to this day. Also the focus on S in addition to B doesn't bode well for the future should they win.

[CUnknown]

Ryleh is totally evil, they starve kittens with the worst of them. Mind control? Calling C'thulu forth from the abyss? They are among the worst of the races, imo.

EA Ulm is a good nation, I have to disagree with KO. They are barbaric and opposed to civilization, but that's why they're good!

EA Pangea is also good, imo. They sacrifice virgins and destroy stuff in fits of bloodlust, but hey, wild nature demands blood sacrifice, and that stuff probably needed to be destroyed anyway.

I would say that MA or LA Marignon is among the worst of the nations as well. I know they summon angels and are very pious and relgious, but god doesn't everyone hate those kind of people. They are nazis.

I think good v evil is mostly a matter of opinion in this game, which is one reason why it is so cool.

[Professor_Dyar]

Considering how humans behave towards nature, I could entertain the idea that all of the human nations (okay, a few exceptions) are evil.

[sum1lost]

Professor_Dyar said:
Considering how humans behave towards nature, I could entertain the idea that all of the human nations (okay, a few exceptions) are evil.

I'm pretty sure that there is a big difference between 'careless and nearsighted about some nonsentient foliage' and 'enslaving all that is living, and then slaughtering it to summon the darkest demons of hell to serve your needs'

[Herode]

LA Mictlan are toads and not humans

So what ? You don't like toads, you racist

I neither encourage the overcriticism against C'tis MA. OK, they stink, but they do not stink in an hostile mood. It's just the way they are. No offense intended. Fate, just fate... And also, the eternal rules of heterogeneous ecosystems competition. OK, I won't be happy having C'tis as a neighbour, me human. But neither will I having any neighbour at all as in Dom III (and many other games) your neighbours just appear to have a compulsive behaviour leading them to invade your own territories.

Ho well, after all, maybe evil is just another word for the guy in the next floor'

[Randvek]

A pity the poll looks for chaos or evil. I mean, Pangaea is all about chaos, and LA Ermor is all about evil, but I wouldn't put them on the same playing field.