Mod: Ermor - The Restoration - Draft v0.75

[Tuidjy]

I have seen at least two game threads in which the host straight out banned
LA Ermor and R'lyeh. In my personal opinion, Ermor is not unbalanced, just
extremely scary. R'lyeh, on the other hand is simply nuts.

Single water nation with massively amphibious units, defensive dominion,
autospawn, clamming ability, extra summoning ability, full slots thuggable
commanders, best mages in the age, insane magic resistance, the two most
powerful paths at reasonable levels...

When I first looked at it, I went 'Huh?'.

I went back to look at them, and to see whether they are as insane as I
rememebered... So I found out some more advantages that I had missed:
communionable priests, amphibious net using troops, mindless tramplers.

Does anyone believe that the dominion is bad enough to balance ALL these
disavantages? From my tests, growth 3 is enough to counteract the population
killing effect, and the insanity effect is no worse that let say Pythium's
old age problems. Of course, the insanity affects invaders MUCH worse than
it does R'lyeh.

[djo]

As much as I'd like to have LA Ermor and MA Marignon in the same bracket, I'd strongly prefer keeping LA Ermor where it is. I like LA as the era of death and decline.

[Aezeal]

Well I generally dislike LA for having mostly nations of death and blood (I always RP a good character)

[Foodstamp]

Originally I thought it would be a good idea to create a water nation with counters specific to LA R'lyeh, but now I believe it may be a good idea to give a few nations a spell that counters some of R'lyehs strengths.

For instance a cure insanity spell that is specific to a few nations that people feel perform poorly in LA. Atlantis comes to mind, maybe a few others. Put the spell higher up in the research levels to make it a strategic decision to shoot for that spell to counter R'lyeh.

Sorry for the off topic here and in the Gath thread

[Edi]

Nevermind the tangent, Foodstamp. If not for that skeleton mod, this thread would not exist.

Now, I managed to draft a halfway decent version of LA Broken Empire (epithet changed to "The Restoration"), but obviously it needs some more work. Mainly it needs a couple of more beefed up infantries, as the current ones are pretty underprotected for LA. The Restoration Renata and Renatus also need the gold costs increased some. Otherwise I'm fairly happy with it. The main point was to get the thematics right from the get-go. All the mage and Broken Empire specific commanders and units had their descriptions altered (Lictor and Shadow Vestal included).

The MA Ashen Empire still has a screwed up description and summary since those seem to be hardcoded into the game and modifying a nation's era requires copy-pasting the description, summary and brief into the mod file to get it all right.

This mod does not conflict with any existing mod since the new Renata and Renatus replace the unused Human Huskarl units 1603 and 1604. The mod file is extensively commented.

Now, I want feedback, especially on the thematics. The balance issue with the Renata and Renatus is another thing that merits its own hashing out.

[Meglobob]

This mod already exists and has done for some time AFAIK.

The one age mod or all ages mod allows you to play with any nation of any age all together.

So you simply select all MA Nations minus MA Ermor and put LA Ermor in, I do it in SP all the time, as a impossible LA Ermor provides more of a challenge.

Unless of course Edi you plan on altering the units/leaders/mages of either/both MA/LA Ermor.

Edit

Just read Edi's last post , yes I understand you are changing the nations so they are more thematic.

Good idea...

[VedalkenBear]

Since a comment I made seems to have sparked this, I guess I should comment...

1) Thematics is good. You should write up some more stuff for stuff like the Ermorian Cultist.

2) The income probably should be 3D, 1S. Maybe even 2D, 2S.

3) The Renatus/Renata fit, really... if you really wanted to, you could make mention about how Pythium assisted in the Restoration, which would explain why they are present. (Whole Eastern Roman Empire helping to restore the Western Roman Empire thing.)