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March 29th, 2008, 02:39 PM
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Re: Short list and exploits
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IMO, MoD shouldn't be used at all before a fix.
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Like I said, considering that Air is the weakest path, don't expect anyone to play an Air nation if you deny them one of their only good late-game spells.
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March 29th, 2008, 02:53 PM
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Re: Short list and exploits
But there are many ways to abus it...
Unquenched Sword [are there any other items with smth also so nasty] + MoD + Armor of Virtue or Ritual of Returning
Mages casting BE + MoD + Vortex of Returning
Maybe with all that attention now we will get some things fixed in next patch 
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March 29th, 2008, 04:16 PM
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Re: Short list and exploits
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But there are many ways to abus it...
Unquenched Sword [are there any other items with smth also so nasty] + MoD + Armor of Virtue or Ritual of Returning
Mages casting BE + MoD + Vortex of Returning
Maybe with all that attention now we will get some things fixed in next patch
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Considering the incredible difficulty in just casting it, I don't think it gets abused as often as people think.
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March 29th, 2008, 05:44 PM
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Re: Short list and exploits
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Twan said:
IMO, MoD shouldn't be used at all before a fix.
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Like I said, considering that Air is the weakest path, don't expect anyone to play an Air nation if you deny them one of their only good late-game spells.
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What exactly are you smoking and how illegal is it where you live, K? I have never before this heard Air magic characterized as the weakest path. Fire and Water are both weaker from what I've seen, though both have their useful sides, but Air has all kinds of uses all around, which makes it very versatile.
That post of yours makes you sound like one of the people who just abuses the crap out of MoD and is complaining at the prospect of having his toy taken away.
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March 29th, 2008, 05:52 PM
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Re: Short list and exploits
Edi!
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March 29th, 2008, 06:05 PM
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Re: Short list and exploits
Edi. Edi! EDI! EDI!!!
Sorry, but Edi is 100% correct.
The claim that Air magic is a weak path is retarded.
MoD, which guarantees a win if you manage to retreat whoever cast it, is abusive.
The claim that MoD is the spell that makes Air magic worth it is beyond retarded.
People who protect abusive exploits with retarded arguments deserve what they get.
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March 29th, 2008, 06:22 PM
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Re: Short list and exploits
Your both way too obsessed and "personally" involved with this issue to the point that you disrespect others.
if you are going to threaten people with public warnings about forum behavior, you should probably lead by example.
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March 29th, 2008, 06:23 PM
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Re: Short list and exploits
To clarify my above post: The beginning of it is an exclamation of disbelief regarding the characterization of air magic as weak. Not meant to be hostile, so my apologies if it was taken that way.
The second half, which brings up the MoD abuse angle is something I do mean. K's post, along with his earlier defense of MoD's current workings being okay gives me the perception that it's about resistance to having something exploitative removed simply because he has gotten used to and comfortable using it when playing an air nation. Whether that perception is correct or not is another issue, but it is how it appears to me.
There is no personal animosity involved on my part here.
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March 29th, 2008, 06:25 PM
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That post of yours makes you sound like one of the people who just abuses the crap out of MoD and is complaining at the prospect of having his toy taken away.
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Really? You wouldn't find that disrespectful if it was directed towards you?
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March 29th, 2008, 06:26 PM
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Re: Short list and exploits
Foodstamp, yes, if there are any warnings to be dealt out here, won't be by me anymore, because as you said, I'm too involved. Can't act as the judge in a case where I'm a participant. So if anything serious comes up, I'll kick it up to Strider, Daynarr, Mindi and Annette and they'll sort it out.
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