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Old April 3rd, 2008, 08:58 AM
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Unit 351 Jeep/106 RCL, availability date 2005-2020.

Incorrect availability date. As described in the previous post it should be changed to something like 1/57-4/103.
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You do realize how all this totally buggers up the picklists don't you ?

Did you overlook or ignore units 53 and 54 yesterday?


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Old April 3rd, 2008, 03:08 PM
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You do realize how all this totally buggers up the picklists don't you ?
Unfortunately yes, as I have had to deal with that issue myself.
What I am doing is compiling a list of issues with the iraqi OOB, with their possible solutions and the relative sources all in a single thread to be used for reference purposes. For the present time I am concentrating mostly on the units themselves.
I do understand they cannot be all implemented in the short term because a lot of work would be necessary to modify the formations and the picklists to accomodate the units changes.
The problem of course is that the iraqi army ceased to exist in 2003 and did so in a pretty throughout manner.
The personnel dispersed and the infrastructure and equipment were aggressively looted (tank engines ripped out to make village generators, artillery scrapped etc.).
The new armed forces have been rebuilt little by little and many capabilities have not been implemented yet.
In game terms this would mean that for example that the old iraqi army artillery formations would stop at 4/103 with new ones startng at 1/109 (or whatever) and the picklists would have to accomodate that. As I said I understand it is a lot of work and this thread is meant to be mainly as a reference for eventual future patches.


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Did you overlook or ignore units 53 and 54 yesterday?
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Unit 53 was one of those listed in the first page to have a start date which was a bit off, other than that is OK. As for unit 54 I am not sure as of yet. I have seen photos of insurgents using 82mm RR but I don't know about the 107mm ones.
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Some chinese weapons that should be added to the game as Iraq purchased and used them in some numbers during the Iran Iraq war. I suggest availability dates in the 1/84-4/103 range for the AA guns and 1/84-12/120 for the 107mm rockets, as they are still in use by the insurgents.

Type 65 AA gun
http://news.webshots.com/photo/13094...67710444IPjOZq
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?...&pageOffset=11
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?...&pageOffset=14

Type 55 AA gun
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?...n&pageOffset=1
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/l...NST9208063.jpg

Type-63 107mm MRL
https://naveodtechdiv.jeodnet.mil/IraqOIG/iraqoig.asp
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The new iraqi army has been using T-72 since the end of 2005. Judging from the pictures they appear to be T-72M/M1 variants (mostly T-72M).Hungary was the supplier.

http://www.defendamerica.mil/article...111405tj1.html

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...planned-01512/
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Could we assume they are both using the same "gun" then ?

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Game wise I think that weapon n.158 in the iraqi OOB would be a good fit. That would also avoid using up another weapon slot.


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In reality what type of ammunition has been purchased so far was not specified. For all that it is known they might have got BM-15 past their expiration date.
However they are purchasing additional T-72M/M1 from eastern countries with the goal of fully equipping a tank division (the others divisions would eventually get western tanks) and I would guess that the above gun would be the best candidate for the sort of ammo that would realistically be aquired.
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