Star Trek XI Plot

Atrocities · #1 April 3rd, 2008, 02:19 AM

Spoiler Do not read.

A plot has been leaked regarding Star Trek XI. Do not read if you do not want to be informed. This is not a joke.

Romulan, Niro, finds the Guardian of Forever and goes back in time to kill Kirk. Spock of TNG era goes back in time and tells his younger self about the plot to kill kirk. Using that information the Spock of TOS era saves kirks life.

Kana · #2 April 3rd, 2008, 02:32 AM

Great another dumb time travel plot. Why can't it just be as simpile as early-before TOS character development stuff.

narf poit chez BOOM · #3 April 3rd, 2008, 03:17 AM

I think you mean TNG.

I might point out that the Gaurdian of Forever is *Intelligent*. Far more intelligent than a mere mortal. Far too intelligent to let some lunatic go back to kill history.

Randallw · #4 April 3rd, 2008, 03:50 AM

I think I learned that 3 or 4 months ago. What makes less sense to me is that the teaser has engineers welding the Enterprise together. It's like in the future people evolved beyond the necessity of actually needing to breathe. In the TNG you couldn't go beyond a handful of episodes without having to make repairs while in space. Bit hard to weld in sapce I think.

For me TOS has only one admirable quality. It created ST so we could have it these days. I find it on the rare occasion I've ever seen an episode to be old, cheap and over acted. I read a page about tv plots yesterday and it had the subject of the crew of a show have to go somewhere and find out what happened to the ship sent before them. There was something like 20 epsiodes of TOS that used the same plot. I hear there are something like 8 epsiodes that involve an arena fight as the main plot, and don't get me started on the epsiode where they find a planet with a fight between Yangs and Congs and discover the sacred holy document is that US declaration thing. ok I'll admit it's an american show, fair enough, but I'm surprised it does as well interantionally with it's US bias, what with the whole point being humanity has overcome nationalism and division. At it's worst extent you get movies like National Treasure. Nice movie the first time I saw it, if irritating, but I couldn't bear to sit through it all a second time.

Atrocities · #5 April 3rd, 2008, 06:29 AM

TOS has many more than one admirable quality. Have you happened to see any of the re-mastered version? With updated SFX the show really takes on a whole new feel. TOS is still the standard by which all Star Trek is measured and will be for all time. The feel of that show has never been successfully duplicated, just slightly emulated to some small degree. TNG, DS9, and even Voyager as well as Ent had to adopt the TOS formula in order to improve ratings over all. The TOS series had a real future feel to it with a measure of intelligence that even by todays standards is lacking in all of the spin offs. The military sense of nobility, the value paced in ones character, the ownership of the ship and the mission, none of that has come through all that well in TNG. Hell they toasted the Enterprise D and not so much as a whimper was passed by the audiance when compared to the utter shock of seeing the original Enterprise burning up in orbit and the joy at seeing the new Enterprise A in the next movie.

People laugh at TOS now, but thats just because they have grown up in technological age and the technology concepts of TOS are so far out modeled by todays tech that it sometimes seems silly to us. But for its time, its time, it was truly a wonderful show. So when people get down on it, that tends to piss me off. After all, look at all the people who have invented things and become valuable scientist of today all because of that old and silly TOS series.

TOS has always had the mature and modern human feel to it that one could believe would be the way humanity would advance and act in the future. High morals, and a no nonsense military adaptation of a future that many more Star trek fans than not consider to be the best of the best of Star Trek.

They would not be going back to make a TOS movie of the original series if there wasn't a demand for it. If you don't get the old series, or feel that its just simply horrible, well then, don't go see the movie. Those who say that the acting in the series was bad really don't know what the hell they are talking about. And I challenge them to say that they do in a room full of real star trek fans. They won't get out alive. And for the record, acting back then was a different kind of business than it is today. Today its all about the sense of self entitlement while back then it was just a job. Today its a spectator sport filled with over paid poor quality, selfish, childish, silver spoon, yuppie, mean, and condescendingly rude people who, for the most part, believe that they are better than the rest of us and therefore rightfully entitled to the prestige of being on the Hollywood mantel and worship as well as being idealized by millions of lowly peasants as great actors, when in all truth, they haven't earned the right to be called actors let alone any ones respect.

When I was a kid, my hero was Captain Kirk. I ask people of today who their hero's are, and they either don't say or they say Sponge Bob. Sponge Bob.... *shakes head* Sponge Bob.

gregebowman · #6 April 3rd, 2008, 01:29 PM

Ditto on that. I feel sorry for my son, who (because I think he's being conditioned by my wife) doesn't even watch sci-fi, especially Star Trek. I was watching some of my BSG season 3 the other day, and he watched maybe about 1 minute of it before he got restless and left the room. I feel sorry for the youth of today who would rather watch Sponge Bob than Capt. Kirk, and some of the other sci-fi heroes.

Combat Wombat · #7 April 3rd, 2008, 03:29 PM

Could just be because the new BSG sucks worse than the new one. As a youth of today that loved TOS, TNG, B5, SG-1, Farscape, etc.... I found the new BSG to be filled with the most unrealistic dialogue and character interactions akin to the worst soap operas.

And back on topic
I have never seen a prequel I've liked and I suspect this horrible thing they call Star Trek XI will be much the same.

Renegade 13 · #8 April 3rd, 2008, 04:57 PM

While I did and do enjoy the original series, there is one aspect in particular that's always bothered me... Kirk's astonishing ability to get with a different woman on nearly every episode! Unrealistic that women fall all over themselves for him? Oh yes. Very.

SteveA · #9 April 3rd, 2008, 06:09 PM

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Randallw said:
... Bit hard to weld in space I think...

It's a bit harder to weld in a non-inert atmosphere. Both arc-welding and oxy-acetylene welding work just fine in space. It's the service call that's a killer....

Steve

Atrocities · #10 April 3rd, 2008, 06:38 PM

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Renegade 13 said:
While I did and do enjoy the original series, there is one aspect in particular that's always bothered me... Kirk's astonishing ability to get with a different woman on nearly every episode! Unrealistic that women fall all over themselves for him? Oh yes. Very.

I love in Stargate Atlantis how McKay is always comparing the lead soldier guy to Kirk.

Lets face it, women love a powerful guy in uniform, regardless of the galaxy or time in your in.